Official 2018 Draft Thread- We Have the 17th Pick

[Panamamike]

The PFF Live 7 round Mock. Only two rounds so far, but this is a shocker. These are the 4 players I'm most interested in. And boy do they love Hurst. And I have to say, they were right about Bosa when they raved over him.


4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston)

Derwin James, S, Florida State

Some debate was had in Berea as offers to trade back were considered versus taking either Michigan DT Maurice Hurst or James. In the end, James and the positional value.@PFF_JohnKosko


9. TRADE: Los Angeles Chargers (from San Francisco)

Maurice Hurst, DI, Michigan

@HondoCz

10. Oakland Raiders


Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia@AustinGayle_PFF


20. Detroit Lions


Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech@PFF_Josh

HURST is their highest rated DT since they have been grading.

[Formula 21]

[Panamamike]

[Rugger05]

I would punch myself in the nuts if this happened..................

[Screeme]

I would be quite angry with that trade. It's a terrible move.

[Fleet]

This time next year DaRon Payne will be 21 nearing his 22nd Bday. Vea will be 24. I go with the youth here. I have always been drawn to the younger players that are also considered top prospects. I factor it into my assessment of players. It doesnt mean everything but its a plus imo.

Obviously i like Hurst a lot...even if the film on him take a while to see plays being made due to the amount of attention teams give him, but i think ive settled on Payne as the best fit if we go DT.

Payne
Hurst
Vea

Final answer. And im not a huge Vea guy. I also really like Harrison Phillips.

[bonehead]

This time next year DaRon Payne will be 21 nearing his 22nd Bday. Vea will be 24. I go with the youth here. I have always been drawn to the younger players that are also considered top prospects. I factor it into my assessment of players. It doesnt mean everything but its a plus imo.

Obviously i like Hurst a lot...even if the film on him take a while to see plays being made due to the amount of attention teams give him, but i think ive settled on Payne as the best fit if we go DT.

Payne
Hurst
Vea

Final answer. And im not a huge Vea guy. I also really like Harrison Phillips.

[Fleet]

The top heavy guy to me is Tavon Bryan.

[Fleet]

I was referring to his build. He looks thin. Plus i dont care. I care about production. And trust me Philips produced. Ata high level. Might have been the most disruptive DT against the pass and run. Ive always been about production. Kerrigan. Donald. Just guys who did nothing but produce. I think Phillips will ball. 150 tackles....28 TFL...15 sacks over the past 2 years. Thats a solid 3T if you ask me. His coach today sounded more impressed with him than he was Thomas last year. Im willing to bet he will do well.

[Panamamike]

Phillips to me is a Hurst light. Not quite as good at rushing the passer, but very solid all around and good vs the run. I think he is a bargain on day 2. I think Bryan is a combine warrior that really didnt produce enough. Does he have enough motor? DL and S are very deep in this draft, so that opens options in rd 1.
Fyi next year DL draft is even more impressive.

[blueman]

Bryan is like Vea light, has a lot of the physical traits that say special, just hasn’t done enough at the college level that says pro. I keep seeing him touted as day one, not sure I buy it.

[Sgt Schultz]

Best case to me is James in the first and Hurst in the second by whatever means... trade or falls

[Panamamike]

Best case to me is James in the first and Hurst in the second by whatever means... trade or falls

James will be long gone. I cant see him sliding out of the top 10 and i wouldn't trade up to get him. As good as he was 2 years ago, he really did not play well at all this year.

[bonehead]

James will be long gone. I cant see him sliding out of the top 10 and i wouldn't trade up to get him. As good as he was 2 years ago, he really did not play well at all this year.

I have to agree, some weird shit would have to happen for him to slide to the Chargers, both Charley Casserly and Jeremiah have James going to the Bolts at 17, Casserly is nuts but Jeremiah does a pretty good job on his mocks

[Coachmarkos]

IF they went DT, I agree with Fleet's rankings, and I love Payne, as I have said before.

But I've got a feeling it'll be a LB... or James. But like others said... it would be a surprise if James was still there. Especially as pass happy as the league is now. Everyone wants/needs a player like that in the secondary.