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  • richpjr
    started a topic Official 2018 Draft Thread- We Have the 17th Pick

    Official 2018 Draft Thread- We Have the 17th Pick

    There are 7 teams with 3 wins behind Cleveland (0-9), SF (1-9_, and the NYG (1-8). We are currently picking 7th. Looks like there will be some fierce competition for the 4th through 10th spots which makes a huge difference on what player is available.

  • Formula 21
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    Mayock praised Vea but wondered if he will rush the passer well enough to stay on the field as often as a 10th pick should.

    “I think there's going to be some better value for them at 10, and I love Vita Vea,” he said, “but I'm just not sure what he gives you as a rusher in your sub package, which you're in 60 to 70 percent of the time.”

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  • Formula 21
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    Covering other topics, Mayock said NFL teams are weighing the injury risk of first-round prospects Sony Michel and Leighton Vander Esch.

    “A lot of people really like Vander Esch as a potential top-20 player,” he said of the former Boise State linebacker. “One of his issues is going to be medical. He wears that neck brace for a reason. He's got a cervical issue, and teams around the league right now are having the conversation about how bad or good is it really, and at what level should we draft him? But I don't think Vander Esch has any issues regarding level of competition and how good a player he is.”

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  • Formula 21
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    Its too long a wait for the draft. This article has gone over the edge.

    Pick Six Podcast: Seven-round 2018 NFL Mock Draft breakdown, winners and losers

    Will Brinson and R.J. White break down the winners and losers from a seven-round NFL Mock Draft

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  • Formula 21
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    Mayocks Final Rankings
    • Interior DL

    1. Vita Vea, Washington
    2. Da'Ron Payne, Alabama
    3. Taven Bryan, Florida
    4. Nathan Shepherd, Fort Hays State
    T-5. Harrison Phillips, Stanford
    T-5. Derrick Nnadi, Florida State

    Rise: Shepherd (NR), Nnadi (NR)
    Fall: Maurice Hurst, Michigan (4)

    Edge rusher


    1. Bradley Chubb, N.C. State
    2. Marcus Davenport, UTSA
    3. Harold Landry, Boston College
    4. Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
    5. Rasheem Green, USC

    Rise: Green (NR)
    Fall: Arden Key, LSU (T-5), Sam Hubbard, Ohio State (T-5)

    Linebacker


    1. Roquan Smith, Georgia
    2. Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
    3. Rashaan Evans, Alabama
    4. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State
    5. Uchenna Nwosu, USC

    Rise: Smith (2), Evans (4)
    Fall: Edmunds (1), Vander Esch (3)



    Cornerback

    1. Denzel Ward, Ohio State
    2. Jaire Alexander, Louisville
    3. Mike Hughes, UCF
    4. Isaiah Oliver, Colorado
    T-5. Donte Jackson, LSU
    T-5. Josh Jackson, Iowa

    Rise: Hughes (4), Oliver (5), Donte Jackson (NR)
    Fall: Josh Jackson (3)


    Safety

    1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
    2. Derwin James, Florida State
    3. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
    4. Justin Reid, Stanford
    5. Jessie Bates III, Wake Forest

    Rise: Reid (5)
    Fall: Bates (4)

    Follow Mike Mayock on Twitter @MikeMayock.
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  • obvious_idiot_bolt
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    I'd be good with that, but would have taken McGlinchey right there.
    Hopefully that 5-6 QB thing happens before our 2nd pick.
    Last edited by obvious_idiot_bolt; Yesterday, 07:29 PM.

  • pigskin
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    This is the listener mock draft that Sirius Radio does.


    The Results are in. The Fifth Annual Movin` The Chains FAN Mock Draft is in the books. Fun had by all, the picks are in, GMs were fired and wer`e off to Dallas! Take a look who your GM picked below! @JimMiller_NFL & @PatKirwanRFN

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  • Formula 21
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    I see Washington taking a player that makes us all go “ damn.”

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  • Fleet
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    On Bryan...30 games....30 solo....10 TFL....4 sacks. I just watch his film and wonder if his numbers would be higher if he didnt run around like a chicken with his head cut off. No question he is athletic. He moves well north to south. A little stiff laterally. But he quick for his size. The problem is his football iq and his angles for me. He has one really good move. But hes a project who needs to find a better way to get after ball carriers and QBs. Its all just athleticism on film for me. He leaves a lot of plays on the field. And im personally tired of seeing that on our team.

    I love Edmunds. I see some Anthony Barr. But im all over a sideline to sideline LB with a serious knack for making plays behind the line of scrimmage. Against the run and pass. I just think its what we need at LB. A versatile well rounded player who learned to call plays on a really good defense.

    At this point only a few days away i think i have my final answer. The guy i really love to watch. I even love listening to him interview.

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  • Formula 21
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    More NFL Draft rumblings

    • Baltimore would prefer not to take a tight end at 16, and look for them to explore trading down, too. I just don't know who moves up. Regardless, if they could drop down 5-7 spots they would covet South Carolina tight end Hayden Hurst I'm told. I don't see many tight ends going in the first round, but if Hurst is there when the Saints pick that looks like a natural match.
    • Tremaine Edmunds, less than two weeks shy of his 20th birthday, is a lock to go in the top 10 from everything I am hearing and I wouldn't be shocked if he went as high as sixth overall depending on who else comes off the board. His stock has continued to soar through this process.
    • Evaluators I trust believe that Maryland's D.J. Moore is the best receiver in this draft and should absolutely be taken ahead of Calvin Ridley (Alabama) or Courtland Sutton (SMU), who are the only other receivers I hear real first-round potential on. Ultimately, maybe none of them go in the top 32, but don't be surprised at all if Moore is the first off the board.
    • I could see Taven Bryan (Florida) going just outside the top 10, which would be substantially higher than many projected before the combine. He's not a perfect fit for everyone, and he doesn't fit some defensive tackle stereotypes (he likes to build computers in his spare time). The potential is robust and he could be an impactful pass rusher from the inside, a talent sorely lacking in this draft. I could see Washington taking him, and I think the worst-case scenario for him is the Falcons at 26th overall. They are among the teams that love him.
    • Since first writing about Florida State defensive lineman Josh Sweat a few weeks back and how projections of him going in the third or fourth round are way off base, I have heard nothing to the contrary. Some teams prefer him to Harold Landry, his knee is not as big a concern now as it was for some clubs before the combine, and he has some freakish ability and metrics. I wouldn't guarantee he goes in the first round, but top of the second round is a very safe bet, and if a team like Seattle dropped down a few spots as it is apt to do, Sweat would be a strong potential target.
    • NFL teams might be systematically ignoring Eric Reid for some now-obvious reasons unrelated to football, but his brother is getting a lot of attention. Stanford safety Justin Reid has a legit shot at going in the first round, and the Titans have done a lot of work on safeties. Reid or Ronnie Harrison (Alabama) could be the pick there depending on how things break. And for as much attention as Tremaine Edmunds is garnering late, keep a very close eye on his brother, safety Terrell Edmunds. Teams love his makeup and athleticism more than is being let on, and the projected grades on him in the fourth/fifth round are going to look way low. I keep hearing it's possible he sneaks into the late first round, or certainly second round. The Panthers, Titans and Steelers could be a fit.
    • Haven't seen Georgia edge rusher Lorenzo Carter mocked in the first round much, but it's a real possibility. So little pass rush available and so many teams in need.


    Jason La Canfora CBS Sports Insider


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  • Formula 21
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    6 days 20 minutes left.

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  • Fleet
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    Its still there. Click his Tweets and Replies tab.

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  • 8/6/1960
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  • 8/6/1960
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    free up cap space during draft for trades?

  • Formula 21
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    Originally posted by 8/6/1960 View Post
    Based on McCain's tweet after he removed the goodbye one and the fact that he hasn't had any visits, it sounds to me like they have a gentleman's agreement for a deal after the draft.
    Yeah, but why? Where's the advantage for anyone?

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  • Formula 21
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    Originally posted by Fleet View Post
    Still need a couple pass rushers. A LB. I just cant see us trading up. The fact we cut McCain personally makes me think that LB/Edge will be a very high priority. SAM type. I cant stop thinking that Nwosu is in play. Prefer him with a trade back though. Really want to get him in the 2nd.
    I think you're overvaluing Nwosu in the draft. I see him rated that highly on the various sites.

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  • Fleet
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    Originally posted by coachmarkos View Post

    Yeah, I know nothing about him either, other than what I read. But I liked what I read.
    Ill put him on the list.

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  • coachmarkos
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    Originally posted by Fleet View Post

    Well like a good draft guy i should claim i do....look at some videos and stats and then pretend i know....but honestly know nothing about him. lol
    Yeah, I know nothing about him either, other than what I read. But I liked what I read.

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  • 8/6/1960
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    Based on McCain's tweet after he removed the goodbye one and the fact that he hasn't had any visits, it sounds to me like they have a gentleman's agreement for a deal after the draft.

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  • Fleet
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    Originally posted by coachmarkos View Post

    Fleet, you do any research on this guy? He fell to me in that draft simulator game yesterday... the more I read, I really like this guy's potential.

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ade-ar...9-e47c2ccf5aa8
    Well like a good draft guy i should claim i do....look at some videos and stats and then pretend i know....but honestly know nothing about him. lol

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