2019 Mock draft

[Boltjolt]

There are a lot of LBs with good college tape,
who will not make it as pros.

True but its college. Big step up and even with good tape i like to see the timed drills. If you dont have the speed, you dont have the speed. Some players speed jump out at you but against many college players that wont get drafted you look better and perhaps faster than you are.
IMO college football is A ball to the NFL with a small pecentage that get drafted into it and a smaller % than make it. The AAF is now AAA ball to the NFL.

[wu-dai clan]

True but its college. Big step up and even with good tape i like to see the timed drills. If you dont have the speed, you dont have the speed. Some players speed jump out at you but against many college players that wont get drafted you look better and perhaps faster than you are.
IMO college football is A ball to the NFL with a small pecentage that get drafted into it and a smaller % than make it. The AAF is now AAA ball to the NFL.

Yes. I was agreeing with you.

[beachcomber]

In the end I don't think there are but a couple of QBs in this draft that pan out.
Sure five may get pushed into starting roles only to flame out and teams realize they are backups. I don't like Finley, Rypien or Jones as starters. Lock don't do much for me but he could start for some time like Bortles.
I'm not convinced Murray is going to be a franchise guy but he is more talented than the mentioned above. We'll see if his height holds him down.

funny, but I thought you were hell bent on raising the flag that there were no starting QBs in this class, and that they were all pretty much backups ??

now there's a couple that might pan out and maybe five will end up starting ??

agree that Jones will prolly end up as a backup and agree again that Lock may have a Bortles/Cutler half life in the league, and....

do like both Rypien and Finley as (eventual) starters, and you think Stidham is worth mentioning in the same sentence as either of Jamarcus and/or Ryan ??

and your not convinced that Murray is a franchise guy ?? ....(eye think he'll end up being that guy for some team/franchise).

and guessing that Haskins is the other guy that pans out ??

[beachcomber]

Wait,....it's laughable to compare him to Russell and Leaf.....who you admitted to liking better than Peyton,....but it's not laughable when you say Stidham may be better than Rivers? That's some serious tunnel vision!

yes I was part of the 77 percentile in the UT poll (thousands polled btw) that favored Leaf over Manning (and also part of the minority that favored Eli over Phil), and yes.... suspect that Stidham could well end up the better QB over PR.... (there's most always light @the end of the tunnel

[Boltjolt]

yes I was part of the 77 percentile in the UT poll (thousands polled btw) that favored Leaf over Manning (and also part of the minority that favored Eli over Phil), and yes.... suspect that Stidham could well end up the better QB over PR.... (there's most always light @the end of the tunnel

Well your 0 for 2, maybe 3rd times the charm but I think there's a snowballs chance in hell of that happening lol.

[beachcomber]

I almost put Little there at 28 and think he may be there. I'm just not a big fan of Lawrence to put him in at 28. Jones with some coaching can step up his game. I think he has more to give.

love Cajuste in the second if by chance he's still on the board (all due respect to Mr. Brugler), and prefer the likes of Isaiah Prince, McGary or Risner ahead of Little.

am wary of Little's intangibles (was the same re: Tunsil fwiw), and ditto for Dre'Mont to a lesser extent, as don't really see much to cast him as a Charger.

he does get credit for a lot of pressures, albeit would prefer a FS/Adderly or even Tillery before Jones.

am under the impression that Savage is more suited for the slot as a nickel back, and would have no problem moving Desmond to FS in that case.

loved Anthony Johnson in the pre draft process and suspect that he is gonna make it in the league.... not so much a fan of Sills as think he is more an MW redux/2.0

would be more than willing to take the gambit on Isaiah Johnson and wonder if he might be able to make the switch to FS ??

checked into Jahlani Tavai awhile ago and didn't really care for what I saw/dug up, and whereas do think Wyatt Ray has real potential/upside.

and have heard good things 'bout some of your other guys, albeit not overly excited w/any of them atm.

[Boltjolt]

love Cajuste in the second if by chance he's still on the board (all due respect to Mr. Brugler), and prefer the likes of Isaiah Prince, McGary or Risner ahead of Little.

am wary of Little's intangibles (was the same re: Tunsil fwiw), and ditto for Dre'Mont to a lesser extent, as don't really see much to cast him as a Charger.

he does get credit for a lot of pressures, albeit would prefer a FS/Adderly or even Tillery before Jones.

am under the impression that Savage is more suited for the slot as a nickel back, and would have no problem moving Desmond to FS in that case.

loved Anthony Johnson in the pre draft process and suspect that he is gonna make it in the league.... not so much a fan of Sills as think he is more an MW redux/2.0

would be more than willing to take the gambit on Isaiah Johnson and wonder if he might be able to make the switch to FS ??

checked into Jahlani Tavai awhile ago and didn't really care for what I saw/dug up, and whereas do think Wyatt Ray has real potential/upside.

and have heard good things 'bout some of your other guys, albeit not overly excited w/any of them atm.

Risner could sneak in the first round but McGary isn't. Maybe a team loves his upside and OTs are getting hard to find but I've also seen some pundits mention moving inside may be best for him so I'm not wanting someone who can't play OT. Went thru that with Fluker. Maybe those pundits are wrong but even in the second round, I'm passing.

Still going thru some vids of players as I am behind and discovering players I've missed like LB David Long. A bit small but a tackle machine with quicks.
Sills hasn't been playing WR very long and can be a QB option for trick plays and emergency QB. Probably already better than Cardale lol.

Oh and as for Savage, my only thing is his size. Im thinking Gus may like someone like Marvel Tell better because of his length. He is 6'2" with long arms and he is a twitch player reaction wise but ... They also did draft Thomas. Savage isn't Thomas but went with him there.

[Boltjolt]

funny, but I thought you were hell bent on raising the flag that there were no starting QBs in this class, and that they were all pretty much backups ??

now there's a couple that might pan out and maybe five will end up starting ??

agree that Jones will prolly end up as a backup and agree again that Lock may have a Bortles/Cutler half life in the league, and....

do like both Rypien and Finley as (eventual) starters, and you think Stidham is worth mentioning in the same sentence as either of Jamarcus and/or Ryan ??

and your not convinced that Murray is a franchise guy ?? ....(eye think he'll end up being that guy for some team/franchise).

and guessing that Haskins is the other guy that pans out ??

My stance hasnt changed.

I always said outside of Haskins there are a bunch of backups. Someone,.....AZ perhaps or whoever will draft Murray high and he will start. How he pans out , we'll see.

Other than that I'm saying this class is a bunch of backups. So maybe two pan out, maybe not. I'm not sold on Murray. Will he be as good as Russell? Maybe, maybe not.

However, Lock will get drafted high and he will start eventually but for now long? Maybe he starts day one but that don't mean he is going to be a franchise QB.

QBs drafted high will get their shot like Kyle Boller and others did but he didn't pan out either. And that's what I'm saying. This class isn't that good and in the end you will have a bunch of backups and teams will again be looking for a QB.

I do not like Finley or Rypien at all as starters. They will be backups.

As for Stidham, I just said he didn't have as good a career as Russell in college and both played in the same conference. Didn't say their game compared and Russell was a better player but he was lazy and didn't apply himself in the NFL and only cared about the money.
Not saying Stidham will do that but for us, I wouldn't use a high pick on him or any of these other QBs.

[Fleet]

GBN

1	Arizona	Kyler Murray	QB	Oklahoma
2	San Francisco	Quinnen Williams	DT	Alabama
3	NY Jets	Josh Allen	ER	Kentucky
4	Oakland	Nick Bosa	DE	Ohio State
5	Projected trade: Miami (from Tampa Bay)	Dwayne Haskins	QB	Ohio State
6	NY Giants	Montez Sweat	ER	Mississippi State
7	Jacksonville	DK Metcalf	WR	Mississippi
8	Detroit	Devin White	LB	LSU
9	Buffalo	Christian Wilkins	DT	Clemson
10	Denver	TJ Hockenson	TE	Iowa
11	Cincinnati	Rashan Gary	DE	Michigan
12	Green Bay	Clelin Ferrell	ER	Clemson
13	Projected trade: Tampa Bay (from Miami)	Greedy Williams	CB	LSU
14	Atlanta	Ed Oliver	DT	Houston
15	Washington	Drew Lock	QB	Missouri
16	Carolina	Cody Ford	G/T	Oklahoma
17	NY Giants (from Cleveland)	Andre Dillard	OT	Washington State
18	Minnesota	Jonah Williams	G/T	Alabama
19	Tennessee	Marquise Brown	WR	Oklahoma
20	Pittsburgh	Hakeem Butler	WR	Iowa State
21	Seattle	Jawaan Taylor	OT	Florida
22	Baltimore	Devin Bush	LB	Michigan
23	Houston	Byron Murphy	CB	Washington
24	Oakland (from Chicago)	Brian Burns	ER	Florida State
25	Philadelphia	Josh Jacobs	RB	Alabama
26	Indianapolis	Dexter Lawrence	DT	Clemson
27	Oakland (from Dallas)	Johnathan Abram	FS	Mississippi State
28	LA Chargers	Jeffery Simmons	DT	Mississippi State
29	Kansas City	Nasir Adderley	FS	Delaware
30	Green Bay (from New Orleans)	Jerry Tillery	DT	Notre Dame
31	LA Rams	Deandre Baker	CB	Georgia
32	New England	Daniel Jones	QB	Duke

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*Projected trade: Miami gets the 5th pick overall in exchange for the 13th and 48th picks this year, as well as first and third round picks in 2020.

Second round

33	Arizona	Greg Little	OT	Mississippi
34	Indianapolis (from NY Jets)	N'Keal Harry	WR	Arizona State
35	Oakland	Dalton Risner	OT	Kansas State
36	San Francisco	AJ Brown	WR	Mississippi
37	NY Giants	Jaylon Ferguson	DE	Louisiana Tech
38	Jacksonville	Noah Fant	TE	Iowa
39	Tampa Bay	Chris Lindstrom	OG	Boston College
40	Buffalo	Rock Ya-Sin	CB	Temple
41	Denver	Garrett Bradbury	C	North Carolina State
42	Cincinnati	Mack Wilson	LB	Alabama
43	Detroit	Chase Winovich	DE	Michigan
44	Green Bay	Chauncey Gardner-Johnson	FS	Florida
45	Atlanta	David Edwards	G/T	Wisconsin
46	Washington	Deebo Samuel	WR	South Carolina
47	Carolina	Deionte Thompson	FS	Alabama
48	Projected trade: Tampa Bay (from Miami)	Taylor Rapp	SS	Washington
49	Cleveland	Dre'Mont Jones	DT	Ohio State
50	Minnesota	Parris Campbell	WR	Ohio State
51	Tennessee	Charles Omenihu	DE	Texas
52	Pittsburgh	Trayvon Mullen	CB	Clemson
53	Philadelphia (from Baltimore)	Isaiah Johnson	CB	Houston
54	Houston (from Seattle)	Riley Ridley	WR	Georgia
55	Houston	Kaleb McGary	OT	Washington
56	New England (from Chicago)	Trysten Hill	DT	Central Florida
57	Philadelphia	Oshane Ximines	DE	Old Dominion
58	Dallas	Kelvin Harmon	WR	North Carolina State
59	Indianapolis	Julian Love	CB	Notre Dame
60	LA Chargers	Ryan Finley	QB	North Carolina State
61	Kansas City	Jachai Polite	ER	Florida
62	New Orleans	Erik McCoy	C	Texas A&M
63	Kansas City (from LA Rams)	Elgton Jenkins	C	Mississippi State
64	New England	Zach Allen	DE	Boston College

Third round

65	Arizona	Connor McGovern	C/G	Penn State
66	Pittsburgh (from Oakland)	Blake Cashman	LB	Minnesota
67	San Francisco	Justin Layne	CB	Michigan State
68	NY Jets	Irv Smith	TE	Alabama
69	Jacksonville	Michael Deiter	C/G	Wisconsin
70	Tampa Bay	Damien Harris	RB	Alabama
-	NY Giants	Forfeited; 2019 supp pick
71	Denver	Amani Oruwariye	CB	Penn State
72	Cincinnati	Will Grier	QB	West Virginia
73	New England (from Detroit)	Juan Thornhill	FS	Virginia
74	Buffalo	JJ Arcega-Whiteside	WR	Stanford
75	Green Bay	Josh Oliver	TE	San Jose State
76	Washington	D'Andre Walker	LB	Georgia
77	Carolina	Joe Jackson	DE	Miami
78	Miami	Anthony Johnson	WR	Buffalo
79	Atlanta	Mark Fields	CB	Clemson
80	Cleveland	Bryce Love	RB	Stanford
81	Minnesota	Will Harris	S	Boston College
82	Tennessee	Beau Benzschawel	OG	Wisconsin
83	Pittsburgh	Vosean Joseph	OLB	Florida
84	Seattle	Germaine Pratt	LB	North Carolina State
85	Baltimore	Darrell Henderson	RB	Memphis
86	Houston	Daylon Mack	DT	Texas A&M
87	Chicago	Darnell Savage	S	Maryland
88	Detroit (from Philadelphia)	Caleb Wilson	TE	UCLA
89	Indianapolis	Austin Bryant	DE	Clemson
90	Dallas	Khalen Saunders	DT	Western Illinois
91	LA Chargers	Ben Burr-Kirven	LB	Washington
92	Kansas City	Sean Bunting	CB	Central Michigan
93	NY Jets (from New Orleans)	Martez Ivey	G/T	Florida
94	LA Rams	Zedrick Woods	FS	Mississippi
95	NY Giants (from New England thru Cleveland)	Gary Jennings	WR	West Virginia
96c	Washington	Lonnie Johnson	CB	Kentucky
97c	New England	Isaiah Prince	G/T	Ohio State
98c	Jacksonville (from LA Rams)	Andy Isabella	WR	UMass
99c	LA Rams	Terry Beckner	DT	Missouri
100c	Carolina	Miles Boykin	WR	Notre Dame
101c	New England	Kendall Sheffield	CB	Ohio State
102c	Baltimore	Terry McLaurin	WR	Ohio State

[beachcomber]

1) Simmons, Adderley
2) Erick McCoy, Bryce Love, Josh Oliver
3) Isaiah Prince
4) Stidham, Cajuste !!

[Gwynning_Spirit]

GBN

28	LA Chargers	Jeffery Simmons	DT	Mississippi State
60	LA Chargers	Ryan Finley	QB	North Carolina State

Nothing says you're in win now mode like using your first two picks on guys who may not play a snap all year.

[Fleet]

Nothing says you're in win now mode like using your first two picks on guys who may not play a snap all year.

LOL. Bolts are definitely kicking the tires on QBs. My theory is this however. If we take a guy in the 1st or 2nd this year and they pan out it keeps us from having to sell the farm to move up into the top 3. I dont see us tanking anytime soon while Rivers is the QB. We have to start thinking about his exit plan. And id be fine with Simmons in the back of round 1. I dont think he would be there if healthy.

Honestly i dont think Telesco feels that they need to draft to win this year. Thats how confident in his picks and the process of development i think he is.

I simply think they go BPA on their board.