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  • #41
    I like it. Doesn't mean they have to keep him.

    Coming out of college, this guy was the 2nd coming of Janikowski.

    He has all the talent in the world. Yes, he struggled big time in the NFL. but it's not as if he's not good, or never been good.

    A fresh start, completely across the country, with a new team... give him a chance.

    If he sucks during camp, you cut him. At least we aren't sitting on our hands.
    "...of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

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    • #42
      Originally posted by richpjr View Post

      I read a report somewhere that the team was considering bringing Novak back and letting Kaser do the kickoffs. That really flies against the comment by Lynn about looking for a long term solution.
      Sure does and Novak can't make the longer kicks which is the reason they brought Rose in.

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      • #43
        The guy had been good in college level. Never in the pro level. Isn't all busts are like that? That's why I defend Gordon a lot, because he was very good last year, at this level. Until the guy can kick consistently facing NFL speed rush and heavy pressure I will remain skeptical, lol. Plus he's a headcase.
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        • #44
          I've heard the argument, that college kicking is harder, because of the wider hashmarks. That could be bunk, but it seems to make sense.

          Anyway, not making excuses for him, or anyone. Just a thought.
          "...of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

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          • #45
            I believe the football in college is a little smaller than the NFL ball. I think it is a 1/2" shorter(length) and 1" narrower(circumference) Dont know exactly how that could change things for a kicker but something changed this guy. You would think that would effect QBs more.
            Last edited by Boltjolt; 01-11-2018, 03:54 PM.

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            • #46
              Janikowski was terrible... now look at him. What we need is good ST coaches.

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              • Boltjolt
                Boltjolt commented
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                Janokowski career kicking % is 80.4%
                Lambo 84.5%

                Hmmmm

              • Charged4Life
                Charged4Life commented
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                What did Lambo do/say in the locker room? Jesus. And why isn't it keeping the Jags out of the playoffs?

            • #47
              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
              I believe the football in college is a little smaller than the NFL ball. I think it is a 1/2" shorter(length) and 1" narrower(circumference) Dont know exactly how that could change things for a kicker but something changed this guy. You would think that would effect QBs more.
              The sweet spot on the ball is a lot smaller on the pro ball than the college. It requires a much greater degree of precision. Any mechanical problems are magnified greatly. They have to hit the smaller sweet spot cleanly, or the ball is just not going to fly that well.

              Add into it that college ST happen much more slowly. Most long snappers are a lot slower on the snap, so the kicker has more time in the approach. A lot of college kickers also wait until the ball is almost to the holder before they start their approach. They can be much more relaxed. In the NFL there are a bunch of super quick guys who are coming after most kicks if they think they can get to you. That causes the younger kickers to speed up their motion and that has them making more mechanical errors, which kills the consistency.

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              • #48
                Aguayo is not going to get over his issues. Let's not waste any time on him. I say we just keep Novak, train him better. Kick Offs... lets get someone who can do that. Sometimes I even think that a roster spot is worth for a kick-off specialist kicker.

                Charged4Life, instead of throwing your arms up in the air do a little google on Lambo and his issues with the Chargers.

                Chargers unhappy with laughing kicker Josh Lambo - NFL.com

                http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ker-josh-lambo

                and:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlY_OJyBphU
                Last edited by foreigner; 01-12-2018, 07:51 AM.

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                • #49
                  So he laughed after the game in response to something the other kicker said to him? Wow, that seems petty as hell. Big deal. Chargers might want to think about re-prioritizing for players that can actually get the job done - and forget about who's laughing or crying or whatever.

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                  • Panamamike
                    Panamamike commented
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                    Except he didn’t really get the job done last year for us. Missed key Fgs at end of halves and to tie games and also missed several Xtra pts. Kicking with confidence right now,

                • #50
                  Originally posted by foreigner View Post
                  Aguayo is not going to get over his issues. Let's not waste any time on him. I say we just keep Novak, train him better. Kick Offs... lets get someone who can do that. Sometimes I even think that a roster spot is worth for a kick-off specialist kicker.

                  Charged4Life, instead of throwing your arms up in the air do a little google on Lambo and his issues with the Chargers.

                  Chargers unhappy with laughing kicker Josh Lambo - NFL.com

                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ker-josh-lambo

                  and:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlY_OJyBphU
                  Id say that is more a big deal to fans than the team. He isnt the only one we've seen doing it over the years. And that was also with McCoy as the HC. Id call that a non issue to him getting cut for Koo.

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                  • #51
                    Originally posted by Charged4Life View Post
                    So he laughed after the game in response to something the other kicker said to him? Wow, that seems petty as hell. Big deal. Chargers might want to think about re-prioritizing for players that can actually get the job done - and forget about who's laughing or crying or whatever.
                    If that characteristic carried into his effort/work ethic, I could see that being a reason. We kept Barksdale though.

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                    • #52
                      Is Vinatieri available and does he want to play another season?
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                      • #53
                        Originally posted by Boltx View Post
                        Is Vinatieri available and does he want to play another season?
                        I don't think he's available, but his nephew is the South Dakota State Kicker, and will be a junior this year. (and is very good, makes clutch kicks, hits from deep, good kickoffs... even ran a fake FG for a TD this season..was a very good HS WR, and excellent track sprinter in HS)

                        "...of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

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                        • #54
                          Did you hear about the new Chargers kicker? He is so bad, he missed practice. Ba-dum-dum. Hey, is this thing on......?

                          TG
                          Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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                          • #55
                            Originally posted by coachmarkos View Post

                            I don't think he's available, but his nephew is the South Dakota State Kicker, and will be a junior this year. (and is very good, makes clutch kicks, hits from deep, good kickoffs... even ran a fake FG for a TD this season..was a very good HS WR, and excellent track sprinter in HS)

                            The last "kicker" we had that ran a fake FG for a TD in college turned out to be pretty good for us... too bad he was a Punter and not a K.

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                            • #56
                              I hope they practice full ST kicking units simulating real game situations with all these guys. Job is in the line pressure. Some way so they arent just free kicking without being rushed. I dont care if Aguano is there...if he can show he has honed his craft and has the right attitude and maturity thats fine. Kickers dont grow on trees and few come right out the gates kicking 85-90% is my guess. Unless we go with an older vet there will be risk with any of the younger guys having a learning curve so they will miss some kicks due to inexperience. So its a win now with a Novak type guy vs win later long term with a newby and expect pain here and there.

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