Are The Chargers Really 8th On Offense?

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  • sonorajim
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    #37
    The Chargers offense should play at a top 10 level. IF we stay reasonably healthy and IF the young players build on what they have learned. I like our potential quote a bit but am gunshy about using the P word.
    It also depends on what you are counting. Total Yards? Tot Points? TDs? I like points. That's what decides W-L.
    We may not be one of the highest scoring teams. IF the D lives up to their apparent potential and IF we can field an effective ground game, we may not be involved in many shootouts and may prefer to make clock eating ball control drives. Give the D some nice breaks after we establish a lead.
    Of course if the D is getting takeaways and giving the O the ball inside the opponents 30, what's an offense to do? Gotta take those gifts. Don't want to make the D feel their effort was scorned. But, we don't get a lot of yards there.
    Last edited by sonorajim; 05-11-2019, 09:56 AM.

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    • sonorajim
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      #38
      Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View Post
      CLE at 7th is very questionable, IMO.
      The pundits make like the projected talent a little too much.
      Cleveland is loaded with high draft picks. Now show us. I can wait.

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      • Formula 21
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        #39
        Screw NE. Just beat KC.
        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
        The Wasted Decade is done.
        Build Back Better.

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        • Bolts223
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          #40
          Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
          That opinion is unsupported by sack count. LAC gave up 11th fewest sacks. Just shy of a top 10 OL.
          Okung and Pouncey are Pro Bowl talents. Schofield started on a SB winning OL.
          Feeney in a soph slump; Tevi the backup RT in his 1st starts had a rough 2018 but they were not really bad as a group. The offense was 6th ranked, we won 13, lost 5 with that OL starting and it wasn't all defense. I completely agree that we need better play at LG & RT, although that does not necessarily mean replacing them.
          The thing about OL is you are generally only as strong as your weakest link.

          Tevi, Schoffield and Feeney graded out not well by PFF.

          And sacks don't really tell most of the story. The lack of sacks is because Rivers gets rid of the ball so fast, not because the line is good.

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          • Boltjolt
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            #41
            Originally posted by Bolts223 View Post

            The thing about OL is you are generally only as strong as your weakest link.

            Tevi, Schoffield and Feeney graded out not well by PFF.

            And sacks don't really tell most of the story. The lack of sacks is because Rivers gets rid of the ball so fast, not because the line is good.
            True that. He throws it away often or tosses it at the RBs feet if the pressure is too much.
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            • sonorajim
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              #42
              Originally posted by Bolts223 View Post

              The thing about OL is you are generally only as strong as your weakest link.

              Tevi, Schoffield and Feeney graded out not well by PFF.

              And sacks don't really tell most of the story. The lack of sacks is because Rivers gets rid of the ball so fast, not because the line is good.
              True. You have to know the playcall and what everyone on the field did in that play. Sacks happen for a lot of reasons.

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              • chargers1316
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                #43
                Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View Post
                CLE at 7th is very questionable, IMO.
                They are very good on paper but a lot of interesting personalities to keep happy...7th is too high until they prove otherwise.

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                • Steve
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                  #44
                  Again, the D and O have t work together. If we are 8th on O, but 32nd on D, it is probably not good enough. 1st on D, we can probably be out of the top 10 and still be a better team. Denver's O on their last SB team was pretty shitty.

                  I would have loved to have put together the D picks we had this year, and rebuild the O, but there were not enough picks to make it happen.

                  Fixing the D first gives the OL another year to shake out and see where we need picks. Lamp, Feeney, Pouncey and Tevi are all coming into cross-roads seasons. I could see all of them being around for a while, or being gone at the end of the year. Next year the priority will be OL, but it will be more focused with the D to back them up.

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                  • chargers1316
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                    #45
                    Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
                    Screw NE. Just beat KC.
                    I think they will beat KC and win the division.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
                      Screw NE. Just beat KC.
                      I agree very strongly with this point.

                      It is fatally flawed to fixate on @ NE AFC playoffs '19, yet there is a whole lot of that going on.

                      That game does not define us.

                      We must be smart and combat any sort of hangover effect.

                      Concentrate on the job at hand...first win AFCW.

                      Mahomes is MVP.

                      Flacco w/Lindsay, Sanders, Sutton and Fant can speca big trouble.

                      Carr w/Jacobs and AB is something serious to reckon with.

                      We will need better than #8 scoring offense.
                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • Panamamike
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                        #47
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                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                        I agree very strongly with this point.

                        It is fatally flawed to fixate on @ NE AFC playoffs '19, yet there is a whole lot of that going on.

                        That game does not define us.

                        We must be smart and combat any sort of hangover effect.

                        Concentrate on the job at hand...first win AFCW.

                        Mahomes is MVP.

                        Flacco w/Lindsay, Sanders, Sutton and Fant can speca big trouble.

                        Carr w/Jacobs and AB is something serious to reckon with.

                        We will need better than #8 scoring offense.
                        Flacco has had one good season and one special playoffs in his career. Since that playoff he has been a bottom 5 QB in QBR. He is not very good.

                        AB will drama queen as Carr makes bad reads and throws. Their oline is much worse than ours. Their D is still awful. I think Jacobs is highly overrated, but perhaps that is just me.
                        Last edited by Panamamike; 05-15-2019, 11:25 AM.

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
                          O

                          Flacco has had one good season and one special playoffs in his career. Since that playoff he has been a bottom 5 QB in QBR. He is not very good.

                          AB will drama queen as Carr makes bad reads and throws. Their oline is much worse than ours. Their D is still awful. I think Jacobs is highly overrated, but perhaps that is just me.
                          Got it, Panama.
                          Mahomes though...
                          We do not play modern football.

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