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  • Boltjolt
    Dont let the PBs fool ya
    • Jun 2013
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    • Henderson, NV
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    #13
    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    Franklin got moved to OG from RT because he was having too many Fluker like moments, which isn't going to endear him to the remaining fan base. He is also at the point in his contract that the dead money vs cap savings works out in our favor. We probably won't trade him until after June 1st, if we are going to. It would save us a lot more in terms of cap, although we could swing it. It would just use most of our remaining cap space (minus what we need to sign rookies and injury replacements).

    Barksdale costs us $450 k if we cut him prior to June 1st. Saves us $1.5 mill after.

    I see Barksdale as the starting RT, not because he is any good, but a lack of other options, and the desire to not have rookies starting next to each other. I think the current offensive staff is OK with 2nd best type of guys at OT, given that we will rely so much on quick passing and trying to run. So long as they don't get beat inside, it gives Rivers a chance to get rid of it before the rush gets there. That is what NO has empahsized for all of Sean Payton's stint as a HC.

    The OL I would like to see, but won't happen.
    RT - Okung/Hairston
    RG - Feeney (R)/Wiggins
    C - Pulley/Tuerk
    LG - Slausson/Wiggins
    LT -Lamp (R)/Hairston
    It wont happen only because i think they will have Okung and Lamp reversed there. Otherwise it could happen.
    11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia F/U Telesco
    35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
    37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
    66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
    69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
    100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
    110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
    140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
    181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
    225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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    • Bearded14YourPleasure
      Fluent in Sarcasm
      • Jun 2013
      • 1776
      • Iowa
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      #14
      I wonder if they try Tuerk at RT. Unless the ACL is still an issue I think he makes the roster. He's too versatile to let go. Wiggins may be the odd man out on the interior. I think they keep Slauson since he can back up all 3 interior spots and provides veteran leadership to a suddenly very young unit. The best news is that there are enough players that now there will actually be competitions on the OL instead of people falling into starting roles, that alone should help improve the unit as a whole.

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      • Stinky Wizzleteats+
        Grammar Police
        • Jun 2013
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        #15
        I think these are the final ten with Franklin vs Burwell as the final battle for a roster spot.

        Franklin, Orlando G

        Feeney, Dan OG

        Lamp, Forrest OG

        Okung, Russell, OT

        Burwell, Tyreek T


        Tevi, Sam T

        Zandi, Mason T

        Pulley, Spencer C

        Tuerk, Max C

        Slauson, Matt C-G
        Go Rivers!

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        • Boltjolt
          Dont let the PBs fool ya
          • Jun 2013
          • 26724
          • Henderson, NV
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          #16
          I'm thinking Tevi will go to the PS
          He is still developing.
          11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia F/U Telesco
          35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
          37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
          66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
          69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
          100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
          110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
          140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
          181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
          225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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          • Formula 21
            The Future is Now
            • Jun 2013
            • 16283
            • Republic of San Diego
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            #17
            I can't see them keeping 10. I believe 8 or 9 is the norm.
            Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
            The Wasted Decade is done.
            Build Back Better.

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            • Bearded14YourPleasure
              Fluent in Sarcasm
              • Jun 2013
              • 1776
              • Iowa
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              #18
              I think they go with 9. Okung, Lamp, and Feeney are locks. Pulley, Slauson, Barksdale, Tuerk, Hairston, Clark are my other 6. Tevi and Johnstone make PS.

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              • bonehead
                Undrafted
                • Jul 2013
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                #19
                It would be nice to see Donovan Clark come in and compete, he was looking pretty good til he got injured in preseason...at least he's eligible for the PS
                Forget it Donny you're out of your element

                Shut the fuck up Donny

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                • Gwynning_Spirit
                  Registered Charger Fan
                  • Jul 2013
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                  #20
                  Here are the Spotrac pages for
                  Barksdale & Franklin

                  If I'm reading this right, keeping Barksdale for this season and then dumping him next season lowers his dead cap number from 6 million to 2 million. If I were TT, I think I would do that.
                  Ok wait, after June 1, Barksdale's # drops to 4 Mil? WTF am I doing with these numbers?


                  Last edited by Gwynning_Spirit; 04-30-2017, 01:04 PM.

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                  • Steve
                    Administrator
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 6841
                    • South Carolina
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                    #21
                    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                    It wont happen only because i think they will have Okung and Lamp reversed there. Otherwise it could happen.
                    OK how about
                    RT - Lamp (R)/Hairston
                    RG - Slausson/Wiggins
                    C - Pulley/Tuerk
                    LG - Feeney (R)/Wiggins
                    LT -Okung/Hairston

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                    • Fleet
                      TPB Founder
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 14162
                      • Cardiff - Poipu
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                      #22
                      Originally posted by Steve View Post
                      Franklin got moved to OG from RT because he was having too many Fluker like moments, which isn't going to endear him to the remaining fan base. He is also at the point in his contract that the dead money vs cap savings works out in our favor. We probably won't trade him until after June 1st, if we are going to. It would save us a lot more in terms of cap, although we could swing it. It would just use most of our remaining cap space (minus what we need to sign rookies and injury replacements).

                      Barksdale costs us $450 k if we cut him prior to June 1st. Saves us $1.5 mill after.

                      I see Barksdale as the starting RT, not because he is any good, but a lack of other options, and the desire to not have rookies starting next to each other. I think the current offensive staff is OK with 2nd best type of guys at OT, given that we will rely so much on quick passing and trying to run. So long as they don't get beat inside, it gives Rivers a chance to get rid of it before the rush gets there. That is what NO has empahsized for all of Sean Payton's stint as a HC.

                      The OL I would like to see, but won't happen.
                      RT - Okung/Hairston
                      RG - Feeney (R)/Wiggins
                      C - Pulley/Tuerk
                      LG - Slausson/Wiggins
                      LT -Lamp (R)/Hairston
                      Are those Barksdale dead money numbers correct? I could have sworn it was a much worse financial situation if we cut him this year.

                      I like both scenarios you present. I first thought that Lamp would end up at RT. But then we drafted Freeney and i almost considered it a lock. But it may not happen. I completely agree with moving Freeney to the opposite side of where Lamp is though. 2 rookies next to each other could be an issue.

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                      • blueman
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                        • Jun 2013
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                        #23
                        Originally posted by Fleet View Post
                        Are those Barksdale dead money numbers correct? I could have sworn it was a much worse situation if we cut him this year.

                        I like both scenarios you present. I first thought that Lamp would end up at RT. But then we drafted Freeney and i almost considered it a lock. But it may not happen. I completely agree with moving Freeney to the opposite side of where Lamp is though. 2 rookies next to each other could be an issue.
                        ...worse than last year's OL play?

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                        • Fleet
                          TPB Founder
                          • Jun 2013
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                          #24
                          Originally posted by blueman View Post
                          ...worse than last year's OL play?
                          Im referring to his dead money hit. Not his play. Is that what you are asking? lol

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