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[wu-dai clan]

Adderly can be the single high in a 4-6. Diablo is a guy to look at if we don't sign Johnson. No Clue if Jenkins is resigned.

BTW, Doesn't Divine Diablo mean "Excellent Devil"? Lol.

ninja loves him.
It's not just a name.
LOL.

[Boltjolt]

ninja loves him.
It's not just a name.
LOL.

He has the size. Have to see more but rounds 4-6 he would be a cheap Kam Chanceller type. Not quite as good as Kam but he is big.

[wu-dai clan]

You've got to be kidding me Nutty.
I only "Liked"your post because it was spicy.

You have undervalued Slater, oh draft guru.

Tillery. Long arms. Narrow shoulders. Narrow base. Fits nowhere.
Who the hell talked TT into drafting him ?
It was gusD wasn't it ?
Get outta here.
Go to Vegas.
Slipper Lobster all-you-can-eat buffet.
Chucky's buyin'.

[Boltnut]

Listen, if Slater has short arms, you know TT won't draft him at OT. Get yourself all lathered up if you need to. I don't pick OG's in the 1st round. I'm building my IOL through FA after I cut all those bloated contracts. BTW, I hated both the Tillery and MW draft picks. If Tillery don't show soon... I'm cutting his ass, too.

I'm done waiting for people to develop (Tevi, Lamp, Feeney, Pipkins... ect.) too.

If you want to wait on old man Hayward and Harris @ $11 million each... I can hold on for 1 more year. But so help me... if they suck like they did last year... I am not putting up with your wait, wait, wait inclinations...

[Boltnut]

My point is,... So if Farley or Surtain is there, you will still pick Collins?

I would not. (I'd also pick Ojulari over him)

If Parsons is there, I'd pick him over the CBs but if he isn't and one of them are, I'm picking the CB as we need a CB that can start on the outside if we lose Hayward. Then that changes things. But again, free agency dictates things more and we just don't know right now.

Also you are assuming we are only going to play a base 3-4. I wouldn't assume that. It may be used but I'm thinking as much or less than a 4 man front for a 4-6 or even a 5-2 at times. Looks like we will use multiple looks of all three perhaps depending on his evaluation of the strength of our personnel.

You think Farley or Surtain are really THAT good...? Yeah, I'd go with Collins. He could play any LB position in the 3-4. He's better in coverage than Ojulari... and has only been playing the position for 2 years. In 2018 he was a QB... in 2020 he won the Bednarik Award. Laugh if you must... but I was having this same damn conversation with Woody (and the whole CMB) about Bud Dupree 5 years ago...

There are a million ways you can build this defense now that Gus is gone... and Staley is here.
Remember what took Wade's defense to Staley's defense was disguise and position flexibility.

Imagine drafting ILB Collins (1st), OLB Tryon (3rd), and DE Dayo Odeyingbo (4th)... you wouldn't even need any CB's... You ever wonder why the Steelers can put just about anyone out there at CB...? Give me 4 LB's that can rush from anywhere and are well-rounded (ALA Bud Dupree)... Don't defend, attack! Gus is gone.

[Boltjolt]

You think Farley or Surtain are really THAT good...? Yeah, I'd go with Collins. He could play any LB position in the 3-4. He's better in coverage than Ojulari... and has only been playing the position for 2 years. In 2018 he was a QB... in 2020 he won the Bednarik Award. Laugh if you must... but I was having this same damn conversation with Woody (and the whole CMB) about Bud Dupree 5 years ago...

There are a million ways you can build this defense now that Gus is gone... and Staley is here.
Remember what took Wade's defense to Staley's defense was disguise and position flexibility.

Imagine drafting ILB Collins (1st), OLB Tryon (3rd), and DE Dayo Odeyingbo (4th)... you wouldn't even need any CB's... You ever wonder why the Steelers can put just about anyone out there at CB...? Give me 4 LB's that can rush from anywhere and are well-rounded (ALA Bud Dupree)... Don't defend, attack! Gus is gone.

Just anyone at CB?
I don't think Joe Haden, Steve Nelson, Justin Layne, Sutton and then you throw in Micah Fitzpatrick and Edmunds at the safety spots and bro,... that ain't just anyone lol.

What I wonder is why on earth you would say that whack statement.

The rest, ok. I wouldnt pick Collin's over those CBs. And it's personnel, not player flexibility.

I don't think you understand what he will try to do. Many of us don't and admittedly, I'm not sure myself but if you listen to his presser, in his words its about personnel and what they are best at, not how many positions they can play but I know people can hear the same things and interpret it different.

[like54ninjas]

Adderly can be the single high in a 4-6. Diablo is a guy to look at if we don't sign Johnson. No Clue if Jenkins is resigned.

BTW, Doesn't Divine Diablo mean "Excellent Devil"? Lol

godlike devil

[like54ninjas]

You've got to be kidding me Nutty.
I only "Liked"your post because it was spicy.

You have undervalued Slater, oh draft guru.

Tillery. Long arms. Narrow shoulders. Narrow base. Fits nowhere.
Who the hell talked TT into drafting him ?
It was gusD wasn't it ?
Get outta here.
Go to Vegas.
Slipper Lobster all-you-can-eat buffet.
Chucky's buyin'.

Definitely wasn’t a first round talent.

[Boltnut]

Just anyone at CB?
I don't think Joe Haden, Steve Nelson, Justin Layne, Sutton and then you throw in Micah Fitzpatrick and Edmunds at the safety spots and bro,... that ain't just anyone lol.

What I wonder is why on earth you would say that whack statement.

The rest, ok. I wouldnt pick Collin's over those CBs. And it's personnel, not player flexibility.

I don't think you understand what he will try to do. Many of us don't and admittedly, I'm not sure myself but if you listen to his presser, in his words its about personnel and what they are best at, not how many positions they can play but I know people can hear the same things and interpret it different.

Of course it was a bit tongue-in-cheek. But consider this (keeping in mind that I've promoted getting a CB in round 3)...

Sutton's a 3rd rounder. Steve Nelson's a 3rd rounder. Layne's a 3rd rounder. And you forgot Hilton (UDFA). You realize that their late season collapse (lost 4 out of 5) coincided with Bud Dupree's injury, right? Woody's right (pains me to say that)... Hayward's demise coincided with Ingram's demise. I'd like to replace Hayward (get younger)... but do I think the only way to replace is through the 1st round of the draft? No. In fact, both Sutton and Hilton are FA's on my target list.

Do me a favor... go count 1st round draft picks on all these remaining playoff team's rosters. Tell me how many 1st round CB's and safeties you find. Then count pass rushers for me. And don't forget to count Devin White (9 sacks). ILB's are pass rushers, too... which was my whole point.

I understand exactly what he's trying to do. He tries to disguise coverages and bring pressure on the QB from different places (positions, if you will). You don't necessarily need a 1st round CB to disguise your coverage. And your pressure can come from various places... positions... with various... personnel...

[Boltjolt]

Of course it was a bit tongue-in-cheek. But consider this (keeping in mind that I've promoted getting a CB in round 3)...

Sutton's a 3rd rounder. Steve Nelson's a 3rd rounder. Layne's a 3rd rounder. And you forgot Hilton (UDFA). You realize that their late season collapse (lost 4 out of 5) coincided with Bud Dupree's injury, right? Woody's right (pains me to say that)... Hayward's demise coincided with Ingram's demise. I'd like to replace Hayward (get younger)... but do I think the only way to replace is through the 1st round of the draft? No. In fact, both Sutton and Hilton are FA's on my target list.

Do me a favor... go count 1st round draft picks on all these remaining playoff team's rosters. Tell me how many 1st round CB's and safeties you find. Then count pass rushers for me. And don't forget to count Devin White (9 sacks). ILB's are pass rushers, too... which was my whole point.

I understand exactly what he's trying to do. He tries to disguise coverages and bring pressure on the QB from different places (positions, if you will). You don't necessarily need a 1st round CB to disguise your coverage. And your pressure can come from various places... positions... with various... personnel...

More Ben playing bad. He threw only 10 INTs during the regular season and 6 of those were in the last 6 games and then he threw 4 in the playoff game. Only completed 52% against the Bengals & 56% against Buffalo so he hasnt been playing well and their run game hasnt been good. Didnt score even 20 points in a game during Dec til they played the Colts the last week of Dec.

You dont neccessarily need a first round ILB either, ( did that last draft) and we have those in place. Ramsey is a guy he speaks highly of, we dont have a Ramsey but we do have Murray and they really like Tranquill. Not sure what we do with Perryman. Davis has been our best CB, Facyson is shit so id let him walk. Campbell id let walk. Hayward was hurt but still, whatever they do with him either way, im ok withbut he has 1 more season and then likely gone.

CB is a need however we get one and they wont come cheap and if they keep Hayward, doubt we sign one.

[Boltnut]

Just spitballing here... so give me grace. I played around with Spotrac's cap manager and ended up $15.5 million under the cap (with draft picks yet to sign). Here's what I did:

Cuts: Trai Turner, Casey Hayward, Mike Williams (if we could trade for a 3rd rounder, I'd love it)... $37 million in cap savings.
Re-signs: HH, Mike Davis, Rayshawn Jenkins, Nick Vigil, Virgil Green, Stephen Anderson, Tevaughn Campbell.
FA signs: OC Corey Linsley, OG Austin Blythe, OG Ethan Pocic, CB Cameron Sutton

Draft:
1st: ILB/OLB Zaven Collins
2nd: OT Dillon Radunz (The Draft Network gave me Eichenberg... but let's be realistic)
3rd: CB Rodarius Williams.
3rd: OLB Joe Tryon
4th: DE Dayo Odeyingbo
5th: WR Josh Imatorbhebhe
6th: OG Josh Sills
6th: RB CJ Verdell
7th: OC Michael Menet

[Boltnut]

Offense:

QB: Herbert, Stick
RB: Kelly, Ekeler, Jackson, Verdell, Nabers
WR: KA, Guyton, Johnson, Hill, Reed, Imatorbhebhe
TE: HH, Green, Parham, Anderson
OT: Radunz, Baluga, Pipkens
OG: Blythe, Pocic, Qberry, Sills
OC: Linsley, Menet

Defense:

DE: Bosa, Tillery, Fehoko, Odeyingbo
NT: Joseph, Jones
OLB: Nwosu, Tryon, Vigil, Lemonier
Jack: Murray, Kyzir
Mike: Collins, Tranquil
CB: Davis, Sutton, Harris, R.Williams, Campbell, Vaughn
S: James, Jenkins, Adderly, Gilman