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  • Bolt Dude
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    TT wants extra "at bats,"
    as he says.

    Gonna be so disappointed
    with your qualifiers.

    With the predictable QB madness,
    one of your big four
    will surely be there at #13.
    More “at bats” are only relevant if you don’t hit the meat ball, slow and right over the plate.

    There’ll be hell to pay if TT passes on any of those players, especially the OTs.

    BUT...if we traded down and still landed Darrisaw, AVT, or Little, I guess I could forgive him.

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  • wu-dai clan
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    Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post

    I would only accept a trade down under the following conditions:

    Sewell, Slater, Farley and Surtain aren’t available AND we get MORE than the value chart indicates, including additional picks (3rd round minimum) this year.
    TT wants extra "at bats,"
    as he says.

    Gonna be so disappointed
    with your qualifiers.

    With the predictable QB madness,
    one of your big four
    will surely be there at #13.

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  • Bolt Dude
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    ​​​​​​If anything, a rare TT trade down is in order.
    I would only accept a trade down under the following conditions:

    Sewell, Slater, Farley and Surtain aren’t available AND we get MORE than the value chart indicates, including additional picks (3rd round minimum) this year.

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  • Bolt4Knob
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    Understandable thinking but...

    Draft is loaded at OT through round three and beyond...we now have breathing room at OL.

    We have two round three picks...there are four QBs going top ten.

    ​​​​​​If anything, a rare TT trade down is in order.
    trading down - yes
    breathing room at OT - no
    get the best damn OT if you can

    (though I do agree if Telesco gets CB and maybe more depth at OT in free agency, that does give him a bit more flexibility in the draft to maybe go OT in R2 - do not think I want to go later than R2 for OT though).

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  • wu-dai clan
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    Originally posted by Critty View Post
    Sewell-OT getting criticism is a bit silly to me. He was 18 and 19. A freaking teenager on all the film. He is 20 now. Obviously he will get better and continue to improve especially with NFL coaching. I bet Justin Herbert would love to have him as his left tackle in the NFL. I'm paying the price and trading up to Jets #2 for him to ensure I get him and the bet is I will have him for the next 15 seasons as the starting Left Tackle. Worth every pick and penny, imo.

    Also I'm thinking those picks I'm trading away will not have 15 year careers many of them will have 6 year careers like Ryan Mathews or Donald Butler or less than 3 like Mager or Watt. Or will be off the Chargers roster in a few seasons like Teo or Attachou or Lamp or Feeney or Henry.

    Im paying the price for Sewell-OT.
    Understandable thinking but...

    Draft is loaded at OT through round three and beyond...we now have breathing room at OL.

    We have two round three picks...there are four QBs going top ten.

    ​​​​​​If anything, a rare TT trade down is in order.
    Last edited by wu-dai clan; 03-22-2021, 01:48 AM.

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  • Leslie Grossman
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    Absolutely Critty, If we think he is the next Munoz, Ogden, or Pace make the trade.

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  • Critty
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    Sewell-OT getting criticism is a bit silly to me. He was 18 and 19. A freaking teenager on all the film. He is 20 now. Obviously he will get better and continue to improve especially with NFL coaching. I bet Justin Herbert would love to have him as his left tackle in the NFL. I'm paying the price and trading up to Jets #2 for him to ensure I get him and the bet is I will have him for the next 15 seasons as the starting Left Tackle. Worth every pick and penny, imo.

    Also I'm thinking those picks I'm trading away will not have 15 year careers many of them will have 6 year careers like Ryan Mathews or Donald Butler or less than 3 like Mager or Watt. Or will be off the Chargers roster in a few seasons like Teo or Attachou or Lamp or Feeney or Henry.

    Im paying the price for Sewell-OT.

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  • beachcomber
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    round one/13 * trade down preferred, as would prefer as many of the day two players as possible

    026) LB Zaven Collins * just a gut take, that this guy might be the best get for us round one
    014) LT Christian Darrisaw * like him better than the rest, albeit agree.... not my first choice for our locker room/team vibe
    013) LB Micah Parsons * something I don't really care for 'bout this guy, and.... he might be the one you wish you had nabbed @13
    021) DT Christian Barrimore * somethin' 'bout this guy that says difference maker.... somebody to help free up Joey
    003) LT Penei Sewell * watched him w/Voch.... get pushed back.... his anchor is in question me thinx

    round two/47 * would like all three of these guys, and willing to trade down, and down again to get 'em

    045) CB Eric Stokes * the dude that I want.... love his intangibles
    048) DT Daviyon Nixon * started out like a house on fire and has come back to the field.... not sure of his ceiling
    071) LG Trey Smith * in my mind he's worth our 13, and then there is the consensus which has him here.... @best

    round three/77 * got my blinders on for the one man in the middle

    082) OC Josh Myers * even tho we got Linsley, we also got his injury concerns/bad back.... Hardwick 2.0 pls

    comp pick/97 * not quite on PR's level, and.... do like this guy quite a bit

    089) SS Hamsah Nasirildeen * 'nother guy that I'd really really like

    round four/118 * we need an RB, we need a NT, we need Oline depth.... we need to learn how to stockpile draft pix

    097) NT Tyler Shelvin * for the umpteenth year, me would likey some NT, and.... dude's gotta be off the board by now
    101) RB Trey Sermon * really like this guy and hopefully he lasts past our comp pick and until our fourth
    070) DT Jay Tufele * like him some, but obviously not as much as some others
    094) RG Deonte Brown * not willing to take him off my board.... if he drops to here and others are off the board
    093) RT Spencer Brown * gonna be overdrafted, as like him.... but not as optimistic on his development as others

    round five/159 * not sure either of the latter two'll be on the board, and.... secondary depth is a must have

    168) CB Ambry Thomas * plenty o' boards have this guy longone by now, and.... hope springs eternal
    063) LB Dylan Moses * huge injury concern, that otherwise takes him off the board, and.... like his intangibles
    112) RB Chuba Hubbard * backup plan to Sermon, albeit plenty reason to doubt he'd still be on the board here

    round six/185 * we need to replace what we lost w/Desmond.... we need a gamer

    240) SS Divine Deablo * Ninja has this guy gone yesterday, and.... could last a bit longer if Johnny's got some Irish to him

    round six/198 * how 'bout goin' Pro here

    322) TE Pro Wells * if he is as some say he is, not the guy that you want to have missed out on

    round seven/241 * always loved me some Brandon Siler.... seventh rounders (make'm) count

    374) RT Foster Sarell * puttin' this guy @the top here, mostly coz he's the one that'll be most likely still on the board
    440) DT LaBryan Ray * didn't see this guy listed, but on my radar nonetheless
    134) TE Tommy Tremble * gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the forum fervor on this guy, and.... double down on TE here
    312) K Jose Borregales * am a Badgley bandcamper, so not alotta interest here, albeit he seems worthy

    afterthoughts * cases could be made, but not havin' 'em this go 'round

    027) WR Kadarius Toney * sleeper first round wunderkid, albeit he just isn't on my radar
    050) OC Landon Dickerson * dude's a mule, and.... not takin' him given he's pretty much physical wreckage
    080) SCB Shaun Wade * intangibles leave something to be desired, but his play @nickel is everything you'd want

    UDFA * maybe usually means no, and.... that's why they have a preseason

    285) WR Brandon Smith * been on my radar since the beginning of things.... hoping for a Malcom Floyd redux
    422) OC Ryan McCollum * has not really established any traction this go 'round, but would take him as an UDFA
    438) LB Zane Zandier * a no namer who caught my eye early on.... special teamer value perhaps

    https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2021/consensus-big-board-2021#:~:text=This%20consensus%20big%20board%20of%2 0each%20player's%20overall,Draft%20date.%20Last%20 Updated:%202%20hours%20ago%202023

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  • La Costa Boy
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    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

    I'd like at least one of those tackles to stick at tackle...
    AMEN!!! So many analysis on the OT prospects say something to the effect of "will need to move inside" "better if he played guard" "slide inside to minimize weaknesses".....you get the idea. if I draft an OT, I want them to play and excel at OT, not guard.

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  • Topcat
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    Originally posted by Leslie Grossman View Post

    Would not mind him at 13, just hoping to move down for an additional 2nd if Slater and the 2 potential franchise corners are gone. Either way I'm drafting 2 Tackles with my first 3 picks. One or both could end up starting at guard.
    Of course after free agency the plan could change
    I'd like at least one of those tackles to stick at tackle...

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  • Leslie Grossman
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    Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post

    You wouldn’t be okay with taking AVT at 13? I think the Vikings will take him at 14 if we trade down.

    Also, getting Stokes in the 3rd would be insane value. I think he’ll be long gone by 47. Oweh too.

    Great players though. Nice work.
    Would not mind him at 13, just hoping to move down for an additional 2nd if Slater and the 2 potential franchise corners are gone. Either way I'm drafting 2 Tackles with my first 3 picks. One or both could end up starting at guard.
    Of course after free agency the plan could change

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  • Boltjolt
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    I dont usually like to make clusters this early til at least after the Combine, preferably after a couple weeks into FA'cy but as i sit right now....and still havent seen some players tape......i ahve something like:


    Round 1


    Sewell (if by chance)
    Patrick Surtain
    Caleb Farley
    Rashawn Slater
    Micah Parsons
    TRADE DOWN(depending how far we trade to is the last two)
    AVT
    Jaycee Horn
    Azeez Ajulari
    Jaelyn Phillips
    Walker Little
    Sam Cosmi

    ROUND 2

    Walker Little
    Sam Cosmi
    Jovante Williams
    Erik Stokes
    Liam Eichkenberg
    Tevin Jenkins
    Joe Tryon
    Quincy Roche
    Creed Humphrey

    Round 3 ( all included for A&B, will take any combo)

    Creed Humphrey ( if he falls here)
    Joe Tryon ( if still on board)
    Ifeatu Melifonwu
    Alim McNeil
    Paulson Adebo
    Hamsah Nasirildeen
    Tyson Campbell
    Elijah Molden
    Josh Myers
    Jordon Smith
    Greg Newsome
    Dillon Radunz

    Round 4 (Getting touchy here)

    Dyami Brown
    Jay Tufele
    James Hudson
    Kelvin Joseph
    Trey Sermon
    Chuba Hubbard
    Trey Smith
    Aaron Banks
    Kary Vincent
    Shaka Toney




    Something like that.....will likely change
    Last edited by Boltjolt; 03-21-2021, 08:18 AM.

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