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  • Longrobbdiego
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    • Sep 2020
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    Safety

    With Staley's scheme sometimes calling for 3 safeties, and injuries, Etc, there's a need. I think Nas has great potential, and hopefully with a scheme change and better coaching he will realize it, but we still need more. Not seeing much in FA... just wondering what were some of y'alls thoughts on how we address this?
  • Bolt Dude
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    #2
    There’s a bunch of good ones this year that could work.

    I was really impressed with Tanaloa Hufanga this year. He made improvements in his coverage abilities from 2019-2020, which were my main concerns. He’s a sure tackler, instinctive in space, a great blitzer, and plays like his hair’s on fire on every down.

    The ideal ‘all purpose DB’ is Elijah Molden. He’s that positionless kind of player that Staley covets—a hyper intelligent, student of the game, QB of the defense type of guy. Excels in the slot/box, kinda like Troy Hill—a little bit safety, a little slot, a little dime-backer. Molden’s not a center fielder (that’s Adderley’s role), he’s a guy you want closer to the LOS.
    Our quarterback is a golden god.

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    • Longrobbdiego
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      #3
      Thanks Dude.

      So in Staleys scheme, where he has 3 safeties on the field, we'd have DJ, and Nas... the third guy, is it better if he's more of a box /slot/ midfield guy, or one that covers deep well? I'm sure ideally it would be both, but if it was one or the other...?

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      • wu-dai clan
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        #4
        Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post
        There’s a bunch of good ones this year that could work.

        I was really impressed with Tanaloa Hufanga this year. He made improvements in his coverage abilities from 2019-2020, which were my main concerns. He’s a sure tackler, instinctive in space, a great blitzer, and plays like his hair’s on fire on every down.

        The ideal ‘all purpose DB’ is Elijah Molden. He’s that positionless kind of player that Staley covets—a hyper intelligent, student of the game, QB of the defense type of guy. Excels in the slot/box, kinda like Troy Hill—a little bit safety, a little slot, a little dime-backer. Molden’s not a center fielder (that’s Adderley’s role), he’s a guy you want closer to the LOS.
        Molden @#47 on my radar.
        But so is Samuel.
        And you know who.
        We do not play modern football.

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        • like54ninjas
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          #5
          There’s quite a few. Some of my favorites......

          Hufanga, Grant, Moehrig, Vincent Jr., Cisco, Deablo, J. Johnson, Sterns, Hamilton, Wiggins, Webb.
          My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

          MikeDub
          K9
          Nasir
          Tillery
          Parham
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          • Bolt Dude
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            #6
            Nas needs to be playing in space (highest among the safeties), a place where he’s closing down receiving windows, but not being asked to do too much in run support.

            Derwin can do it all.

            The third guy would need to play lower—around the box, able to blitz, run support, and keeping an eye on RB check downs in the flats. Kinda like a wing to the OLB. This guy needs to have short area quickness, off the line coverage skills (slants & flats), and surefire tackling abilities. That’s why I love Hufanga and especially Molden in that role.
            Our quarterback is a golden god.

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            • Bolt Dude
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              #7
              Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
              There’s quite a few. Some of my favorites......

              Hufanga, Grant, Moehrig, Vincent Jr., Cisco, Deablo, J. Johnson, Sterns, Hamilton, Wiggins, Webb.
              You don’t like Molden in that role? Seems ideal to me.
              Our quarterback is a golden god.

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              • like54ninjas
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                #8
                Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post

                You don’t like Molden in that role? Seems ideal to me.
                As more of a pure NCB.
                My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

                MikeDub
                K9
                Nasir
                Tillery
                Parham
                Reed

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                • Bolt Dude
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                  As more of a pure NCB.
                  Haha, I watched a recent YouTube interview with Molden... some podcast, forgot the name. He stressed that he’s a DB and it bugs him when people pigeon-hole him as a pure nickel. Seems like he’s trying to sell his versatility, but I tend to agree with you—his highest and best value is at nickel.

                  edit: it was the 2 for 1 PFF podcast
                  Our quarterback is a golden god.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post

                    Haha, I watched a recent YouTube interview with Molden... some podcast, forgot the name. He stressed that he’s a DB and it bugs him when people pigeon-hole him as a pure nickel. Seems like he’s trying to sell his versatility, but I tend to agree with you—his highest and best value is at nickel.

                    edit: it was the 2 for 1 PFF podcast
                    https://youtu.be/BLWN7PU4IWc
                    They all trying to sell themselves. Id rather draft Trill at safety than Molden. Trill has played all over while Molden hasnt. There are plenty of others id rather have for safety than Trill even but just saying he can do it too.
                    11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia
                    35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
                    37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
                    66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
                    69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
                    105 Brenden Rice WR - USC
                    110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
                    140 Hunter Nourzad OC - Penn st
                    181 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Mississippi
                    225 Josh Procter S-Ohio st /253 Dwight McGlothern CB -Ar​

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                    • Bolt Dude
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                      They all trying to sell themselves. Id rather draft Trill at safety than Molden. Trill has played all over while Molden hasnt. There are plenty of others id rather have for safety than Trill even but just saying he can do it too.
                      Um, have you watched much UW football?
                      They played Molden all over the place.
                      Our quarterback is a golden god.

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                      • Boltjolt
                        Dont let the PBs fool ya
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bolt Dude View Post
                        Um, have you watched much UW football?
                        They played Molden all over the place.
                        Some,... Usually have to watch on tape as im not a Huskies fan and not partial to the PAC 12.

                        I don't have a favorite college team and just watch the best match-up on TV at the time lol..... When I watch it.
                        The tape I did see of him, he was in the slot and everything I've read says he pretty much played in the slot.

                        I don't care where the player we draft comes from, just want the best we can get so I won't favor someone from say USC over a kid from Georgia or Wisconsin because he is a Pac 12 player.

                        ​​​​​​Syracuse had a good secondary, Pittsburgh had a good DL, Notre Dame had a good OL so plenty of tape to look at there.
                        11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia
                        35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
                        37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
                        66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
                        69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
                        105 Brenden Rice WR - USC
                        110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
                        140 Hunter Nourzad OC - Penn st
                        181 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Mississippi
                        225 Josh Procter S-Ohio st /253 Dwight McGlothern CB -Ar​

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