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  • beachcomber
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    #37
    first round cluster.... NT Derrick Brown, OC Tyler Biadasz, RB D'Andre Smith, WIL Isaiah Simmons, QB Jacob Eason
    RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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    • beachcomber
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      #38
      https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/13/nfl-mock-draft-2020-joe-burrow-andrew-thomas-chase-young
      RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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      • Classic
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        #39
        Trade up for Andrew Thomas and get us a future pro bowler.

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        • beachcomber
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          #40
          10.

          Chargers

          Isaiah Simmons

          LB, Clemson

          I think the Los Angeles Chargers’ linebacker room isn’t their biggest problem. They need offensive line help pretty bad, and healthy young players at cornerback would be welcome as well. With the continued quality play of Drue Tranquill and young, growing talents like Kyzir White, the Chargers could easily go elsewhere in Round 1.

          But Isaiah Simmons is the image of the player the Chargers have been building this defense around. He is the archetype: the ultimate move piece that can be placed at any position on the defense that doesn't put its hand in the dirt. He allows Tranquill to move to a permanent MIKE role in the future, helps cover bigger slot receivers as well as tight ends and generally makes plays as he has for years with the Tigers.

          He just feels like a Charger.



          11.

          Broncos

          Derrick Brown

          IDL, Auburn


          https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/solak-s-2020-mock-draft-3.0
          RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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          • Topcat
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            #41
            Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
            2020 NFL Mock Draft: Jordan Love replaces Jameis Winston, Chargers plan for post-Philip Rivers era

            The Buccaneers can't extend Jameis Winston after the start he's had to the 2019 campaign








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            Chris Trapasso
            Oct 14, 2019 at 11:16 am ET • 1 min read

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            While they weren't all his fault, Jameis Winston threw five interceptions in a divisional loss to the Panthers in London on Sunday, and they came during a game in which the former No. 1 overall threw for exactly 400 yards.
            In a way, the 36-27 loss encapsulated the Winston era in Tampa Bay. Lots of passing yards, porous defense, too many sacks and too many turnovers.
            Right now, the Buccaneers have to be thinking quarterback in the 2020 NFL Draft.
            The draft order below is based on records and strength of schedule. Position rankings are based on my Top 32 Big Board.

            Now, to the picks.
            NFL Mock Draft
            Round 1
            Round 1 - Pick 1

            Justin Herbert QB
            Oregon • Sr • 6'6" / 237 lbs
            Projected Team

            Cincinnati
            PROSPECT RNK

            7th
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            Same pairing as a week ago. Too perfect. Herbert has learned how to limit mistakes but still flashes a few ridiculous throws each game.
            Round 1 - Pick 2

            Tua Tagovailoa QB
            Alabama • Jr • 6'1" / 218 lbs
            Projected Team

            Miami
            PROSPECT RNK

            3rd
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            After "winning" the tank bowl, the Dolphins are positioned to land one of the first two picks. In this scenario, quarterbacks go No. 1 and No. 2 for the first time since Jared Goff and Carson Wentz in 2016. Tagovailoa doesn't have a big arm but is accurate from inside the pocket and showed against Texas A&M that he can make big plays off-script.
            Round 1 - Pick 3

            Andrew Thomas OL
            Georgia • Jr • 6'5" / 320 lbs
            Projected Team

            Washington
            PROSPECT RNK

            8th
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            I seriously doubt Trent Williams plays for the Redskins again, meaning they need to address left tackle. Thomas has emerged as the most likely first offensive linemen off the board.
            Round 1 - Pick 4

            Jeff Okudah CB
            Ohio State • Jr • 6'1" / 200 lbs
            Projected Team

            Atlanta
            PROSPECT RNK

            1st
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            The Falcons defense is an utter disaster right now, meaning they'll be glad to go with an elite defensive prospect in Okudah.
            Round 1 - Pick 5

            Jerry Jeudy WR
            Alabama • Jr • 6'1" / 192 lbs
            Projected Team

            N.Y. Jets
            PROSPECT RNK

            9th
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            The Jets have gotten quality contributions from some lesser-known players on defense this season. The offense needs a boost. Jeudy can give them that.
            Round 1 - Pick 6

            Chase Young EDGE
            Ohio State • Jr • 6'5" / 265 lbs
            Projected Team

            Jacksonville
            PROSPECT RNK

            22nd
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            Young is far and away the best edge rusher in the class, and the Jaguars would love to pair him with Josh Allen on the outside of their defense.
            Round 1 - Pick 7

            Tristan Wirfs OL
            Iowa • Jr • 6'5" / 322 lbs
            Projected Team

            Cleveland
            PROSPECT RNK

            12th
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            Cleveland's offensive line is porous. Wirfs can play either tackle spot or maul at guard. Easy pick here.
            Round 1 - Pick 8

            A.J. Epenesa EDGE
            Iowa • Jr • 6'6" / 280 lbs
            Projected Team

            Miami
            PROSPECT RNK

            21st
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            Back-to-back Hawkeyes inside the top 10. The Dolphins edge-rusher group needs a full-blown makeover. Epenesa is a large, powerful, refined defensive end prospect.
            Round 1 - Pick 9

            Kristian Fulton CB
            LSU • Sr • 6'0" / 200 lbs
            Projected Team

            N.Y. Giants
            PROSPECT RNK

            6th
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            The Giants have shown signs of life on offense with Daniel Jones on the field. But the defense has been average at best. Fulton is a twitchy corner with lockdown tendencies.



            Round 1 - Pick 10



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            Joe Burrow QB
            LSU • Sr • 6'4" / 216 lbs
            Projected Team

            L.A. Chargers
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            While this selection would not signal an immediate end to the Philip Rivers era, the Chargers do need to plan ahead at the quarterback spot. Burrow would be in line to sit behind Rivers for all of 2020.


            Round 1 - Pick 11

            Jacob Eason QB
            Washington • Jr • 6'6" / 227 lbs
            Projected Team

            Tennessee
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            If the Titans want a change in quarterback style from Marcus Mariota, look no further than Eason, a strong-armed gunslinger.
            Round 1 - Pick 12

            Tee Higgins WR
            Clemson • Jr • 6'4" / 215 lbs
            Projected Team

            Denver
            PROSPECT RNK

            10th
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            The Broncos have started to see the potential in big, athletic, second-year wideout Courtland Sutton, so they add a similar type pass catcher in Higgins to bolster the receiver group.
            Round 1 - Pick 13

            Jordan Love QB
            Utah State • Jr • 6'4" / 225 lbs
            Projected Team

            Tampa Bay
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            His film is a roller-coaster, but Love can make outrageous throws from unique platforms and arm angles. The Buccaneers can't extend Jameis Winston at this point, and Bruce Arians is primed to be in a weird spot next season. Quarterback has to be the pick here for Tampa.
            Round 1 - Pick 14

            Javon Kinlaw DL
            South Carolina • Sr • 6'6" / 310 lbs
            Projected Team

            Arizona
            PROSPECT RNK

            5th
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            With Kinlaw and 2019 third-round pick Zach Allen, the Cardinals would have two, young, versatile defensive linemen who can thrive anywhere up front. Time to start building the defense, Kliff.
            Round 1 - Pick 15

            Neville Gallimore DL
            Oklahoma • Sr • 6'2" / 302 lbs
            Projected Team

            Dallas
            PROSPECT RNK

            15th
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            The one piece the Cowboys defense is clearly missing? A penetrating defensive tackle with power, and that is the one-sentence scouting report on Gallimore.
            Round 1 - Pick 16

            Mekhi Becton OL
            Louisville • Jr • 6'7" / 369 lbs
            Projected Team

            L.A. Rams
            PROSPECT RNK

            19th
            POSITION RNK

            3rd
            The Rams offensive line has taken a clear step back in 2019. Jared Goff under pressure can occasionally be no bueno. Becton is a towering, super-strong tackle prospect.
            Round 1 - Pick 17

            Lamar Jackson CB
            Nebraska • Sr • 6'3" / 215 lbs
            Projected Team

            Indianapolis
            PROSPECT RNK

            18th
            POSITION RNK

            4th
            The Colts seem to know their identity on offense but have to find the right pieces on the other side of the ball. How about another long cornerback in Indianapolis?
            From Chicago Bears

            Round 1 - Pick 18

            Isaiah Simmons S
            Clemson • Jr • 6'4" / 230 lbs
            Projected Team

            Oakland
            PROSPECT RNK

            4th
            POSITION RNK

            1st
            Unit-changing pick here for the Raiders. Simmons can cover, get to the back on outside runs, and blitz better than any linebacker in the country.
            Round 1 - Pick 19

            CeeDee Lamb WR
            Oklahoma • Jr • 6'2" / 189 lbs
            Projected Team

            Detroit
            PROSPECT RNK

            13th
            POSITION RNK

            3rd
            The Lions have to get younger at the receiver spot. Lamb does everything well, and for a bigger wideout, he's amazing after the catch.
            Round 1 - Pick 20

            Henry Ruggs III WR
            Alabama • Jr • 6'0" / 190 lbs
            Projected Team

            Carolina
            PROSPECT RNK

            16th
            POSITION RNK

            4th
            With Ruggs, Curtis Samuel, and D.J. Moore, the Panthers would boast the most dangerous combination of youth and athleticism at the receiver spot in the NFL.
            Round 1 - Pick 21

            Kenneth Murray LB
            Oklahoma • Jr • 6'2" / 234 lbs
            Projected Team

            Philadelphia
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            Murray absolutely flies. He gets to the sideline as fast as any linebacker I've recently scouted. I mean that.
            Round 1 - Pick 22

            Laviska Shenault Jr. WR
            Colorado • Jr • 6'2" / 220 lbs
            Projected Team

            Oakland
            PROSPECT RNK

            20th
            POSITION RNK

            5th
            Shenault is a large, YAC-monster with impressive speed and would round out the Raiders receiver group nicely.
            Round 1 - Pick 23

            K'Lavon Chaisson EDGE
            LSU • Soph • 6'4" / 250 lbs
            Projected Team

            Baltimore
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            Chassion is 250 pounds, and I don't think he has too much flab on his frame. He's as twitchy as they come and can convert speed to power.
            Round 1 - Pick 24

            Calvin Throckmorton OL
            Oregon • Sr • 6'5" / 309 lbs
            Projected Team

            Minnesota
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            Everyone in Minnesota loves Kirk Cousins again! Yay! So, for the time being, I'm mocking a heady, versatile offensive lineman to the Vikings.
            From Houston Texans

            Round 1 - Pick 25

            Trey Smith OL
            Tennessee • Jr • 6'6" / 325 lbs
            Projected Team

            Miami
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            Three weeks in a row. Love the high upside of Smith on a team at the ground floor of its rebuilding process.
            Round 1 - Pick 26

            Carlos Basham Jr. DL
            Wake Forest • Jr • 6'5" / 275 lbs
            Projected Team

            Buffalo
            PROSPECT RNK

            23rd
            POSITION RNK

            3rd
            The Bills add to their sturdy defense with Basham, a low center of gravity edge rusher with power and a high motor.
            Round 1 - Pick 27

            Jalen Reagor WR
            TCU • Jr • 5'11" / 195 lbs
            Projected Team

            Green Bay
            PROSPECT RNK

            26th
            POSITION RNK

            6th
            The Packers finally use a first-round pick on offense and give Aaron Rodgers a talented, explosive wideout in Reagor.
            Round 1 - Pick 28

            Alex Leatherwood OL
            Alabama • Jr • 6'6" / 310 lbs
            Projected Team

            Seattle
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            The Seahawks have to try to better protect Russell Wilson despite his otherworldly improvisational skills.
            Round 1 - Pick 29

            CJ Henderson CB
            Florida • Jr • 6'1" / 202 lbs
            Projected Team

            Kansas City
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            More defense for the Chiefs. It's a necessity with the way teams are going to try to play keepaway from Patrick Mahomes and Co.
            Round 1 - Pick 30

            Tyler Johnson WR
            Minnesota • Sr • 6'2" / 205 lbs
            Projected Team

            New Orleans
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            Johnson is a savvy yards-after-the-catch receiver who'd work wonders with Sean Payton in New Orleans.
            Round 1 - Pick 31

            Jacob Breeland TE
            Oregon • Sr • 6'5" / 250 lbs
            Projected Team

            San Francisco
            PROSPECT RNK

            NR
            POSITION RNK

            NR
            More tight ends in San Francisco! You know Kyle Shanahan would love it. Breeland is athletic and has shown his receiving chops in 2019.
            Round 1 - Pick 32

            Grant Delpit S
            LSU • Jr • 6'3" / 203 lbs
            Projected Team

            New England
            PROSPECT RNK

            27th
            POSITION RNK

            2nd
            Delpit is a nasty run defender with outstanding athleticism and size for the safety spot. Bill Belichick will love his versatility close to the line of scrimmage and as a robber safety.
            Herbert over Burrow to the Bengals???? Hard to believe...

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            • beachcomber
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              #42
              https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/12/11/nfl-mock-draft-2020-jeffrey-okudah-jerry-jeudy
              RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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              • powderblueboy
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                #43
                Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
                10.

                Chargers

                Isaiah Simmons

                LB, Clemson


                I think the Los Angeles Chargers’ linebacker room isn’t their biggest problem. They need offensive line help pretty bad, and healthy young players at cornerback would be welcome as well. With the continued quality play of Drue Tranquill and young, growing talents like Kyzir White, the Chargers could easily go elsewhere in Round 1.

                But Isaiah Simmons is the image of the player the Chargers have been building this defense around. He is the archetype: the ultimate move piece that can be placed at any position on the defense that doesn't put its hand in the dirt. He allows Tranquill to move to a permanent MIKE role in the future, helps cover bigger slot receivers as well as tight ends and generally makes plays as he has for years with the Tigers.

                He just feels like a Charger.



                11.


                Broncos

                Derrick Brown

                IDL, Auburn




                https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/solak-s-2020-mock-draft-3.0
                You draft a star beachcomber, and don't worry about position. Injuries will happen, and if your stars are out there, they can cover up a ton of stuff.
                Star linebackers take away drag routes over the middle, which are huge in Patriots/chiefs arsenals.

                he's also an elite blitzer, a skill which even bradley might use.
                Last edited by powderblueboy; 12-14-2019, 11:39 AM.

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  #44
                  Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

                  You draft a star beachcomber, and don't worry about position. Injuries will happen, and if your stars are out there, they can cover up a ton of stuff.
                  Star linebackers take away drag routes over the middle, which are huge in Patriots/chiefs arsenals.

                  he's also an elite blitzer, a skill which even bradley might use.
                  Agreed.

                  Pro Football Focus, The Powder Blues favorite pundits, are saying that Jordan Elliott, Javon Kinlaw and Marvin Wilson are every bit as good as Derrick Brown as DTs.

                  I can live with Simmons LB or Trevon Diggs CB or even AJ Epenesa DL.

                  One more elite piece for our defense would be grand.
                  Last edited by wu-dai clan; 12-14-2019, 03:06 PM.
                  Get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
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                  • Lone Bolt
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                    #45
                    I figure we are picking top 16, so here is my big board....biased towards the type of players I think the Chargers can use the most. No WR or RB...can get later. After Leatherwood, the next 5 or 6 OTs are so close in talent level as to be indistinguishable...and a few will be available when we pick in the second round.

                    1. Joe Burrow QB: Do I have to spell it out? Will be gone
                    2. Chase Young DE: Generational talent.
                    3. Andrew Thomas OT: Lead pipe Lock at LT for any francise
                    4. Tristan Wirfs OT: Possibly my favorite prospect, and maybe the best Charger fit this year.
                    5. Derrick Brown DT: Would complete the overhaul of the dline.
                    6. Jedrick Wills OT: Immediate RT plug in/upgrade
                    7. I. Simmons LB: Yea...wasn't looking for a LB this early, but this guy is amazing...all pro potential who can play multiple spots, and blitz like crazy... Yes, please...
                    8. Tua Tagovailoa QB: Risky...but there may be too much potential there to pass up...and he will have plenty of time to heal 100% while learning under Rivers.
                    9. Jeffrey Okuda CB: CB is so important, and this one is too talented to pass up for the likes of Leatherwood
                    10. Alex Leatherwood OT: May be a little overrated...but such a need. He would hopefully give us a much needed boost in Oline talent.
                    11. Grant Delpit S: This guy paired with James? Forget about Adderley...he can play CB or provide depth...Delpit is the FS you want.
                    12. Justin Herbert QB: We might be looking for the next guy...if he nails the process, you gotta consider taking him...and what he could learn a year or two behind Rivers.
                    13. Kristian Fulton CB: Would be a solid addition to our secondary...can never have too many good DBs.
                    14. Javon Kinlaw DT: Not the anchor Brown is, but still can handle 2 gapping, and very disruptive as an interior pass rusher.
                    15. Dylan Moses LB: Another impact LB who would round out our young corps...can't pass him up
                    16. Tyler Biadasz C/OG: Too talented to pass up...if Pouncey comes back, plug him in at guard for an upgrade.
                    The TPB makes plans....

                    And Jim Harbaugh laughs...

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                    • Charge!
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                      #46
                      Just an FYI:

                      Due to tiebreakers, strength of schedule, etc......

                      The highest draft position Chargers can get by losing last 2 games is 7th or 8th..... we are currently at 9th and most of the teams above us will likely lose one or 2 of remaining games also. We are currently drafting 9th...... winning both games drops us to around 13th to 16th......

                      no matter what happens, CIN and MIA will draft ahead of us so we will have no shot at Burrow or Tua unless we trade up for them...... Giants will take the DE from Ohio state.... so if we win out or lose out it makes zero difference as far as drafting a top QB.....

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        #47
                        Thank you.
                        There will be a run on OTs.
                        Elite defenders or WRs will be BPA for LAC.
                        Get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
                        Ben Herbert

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                        • Charge!
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post
                          I figure we are picking top 16, so here is my big board....biased towards the type of players I think the Chargers can use the most. No WR or RB...can get later. After Leatherwood, the next 5 or 6 OTs are so close in talent level as to be indistinguishable...and a few will be available when we pick in the second round.

                          1. Joe Burrow QB: Do I have to spell it out? Will be gone
                          2. Chase Young DE: Generational talent.
                          3. Andrew Thomas OT: Lead pipe Lock at LT for any francise
                          4. Tristan Wirfs OT: Possibly my favorite prospect, and maybe the best Charger fit this year.
                          5. Derrick Brown DT: Would complete the overhaul of the dline.
                          6. Jedrick Wills OT: Immediate RT plug in/upgrade
                          7. I. Simmons LB: Yea...wasn't looking for a LB this early, but this guy is amazing...all pro potential who can play multiple spots, and blitz like crazy... Yes, please...
                          8. Tua Tagovailoa QB: Risky...but there may be too much potential there to pass up...and he will have plenty of time to heal 100% while learning under Rivers.
                          9. Jeffrey Okuda CB: CB is so important, and this one is too talented to pass up for the likes of Leatherwood
                          10. Alex Leatherwood OT: May be a little overrated...but such a need. He would hopefully give us a much needed boost in Oline talent.
                          11. Grant Delpit S: This guy paired with James? Forget about Adderley...he can play CB or provide depth...Delpit is the FS you want.
                          12. Justin Herbert QB: We might be looking for the next guy...if he nails the process, you gotta consider taking him...and what he could learn a year or two behind Rivers.
                          13. Kristian Fulton CB: Would be a solid addition to our secondary...can never have too many good DBs.
                          14. Javon Kinlaw DT: Not the anchor Brown is, but still can handle 2 gapping, and very disruptive as an interior pass rusher.
                          15. Dylan Moses LB: Another impact LB who would round out our young corps...can't pass him up
                          16. Tyler Biadasz C/OG: Too talented to pass up...if Pouncey comes back, plug him in at guard for an upgrade.
                          Good list of players, though I would not touch Herbert.... or any QB from that oregon system.... Herbert never had any pressure, never had to make any tough throws into tight coverage or under pressure....... Mariota flopped really hard in NFL...... nice guy, too fragile but not tough enough for NFL....

                          Whether we keep Rivers for one more year via franchise tag or a 2 year meant to be one year contract, we need to draft the QB of future this year if possible...... and if we believe Burrow or Tua are special QB's who can lead the franchise into the future...... Hurts is a Jackson type of running/throw to open guys type of QB.... but they won't have long careers and defense will learn how to defend them....

                          Good thing about this draft, is if a great QB is not available, or we cannot work a deal to trade up for them, then at least there appears to be multiple OT's worth drafting, though drafting one from Bama scares me because of how (not great) Fluker was..... and as you listed there are some great defenders that could greatly help our defense.....

                          Even though our defense was not great to bad this year, clearly our biggest problem was our offense that only averaged less than 20 points per game which is unacceptable in today's NFL..... Our OL needs a complete rebuild, we need speed at WR and TE and size and speed at RB (notice that every viking RB was quick, strong and broke lots off tackles?, ....Jackson and Ekler are elusive but not powerful) .....I love Rivers and he has had a great career, but he is nearing the end and even he has to know it.... with protection, he could play and win for at least a couple more years... but without protection he its getting the crap beaten out of him.

                          Needs:

                          QB -pocket QB with elusive mobility to extend plays....(only a great franchise type...no taking flyers on iffy scrubs)
                          OT (2)
                          OG
                          DT
                          LB
                          CB
                          WR - speed burners
                          RB - power backs
                          TE - someone with speed who can catch

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