Your 1st 3 rounds

[Boltnut]

[QUOTE=like54ninjas;n895684]

Here was my early off-season plan.....

Our QB situation is a complete unknown so I am calculating going QB in 2021. Looks like you are not for extending PR? Is Tyrod adequate?

Retain with new contracts Hunter Henry, Adrian Phillips, Derek Watt, Sean Culkin, and all RFA/ERFA. Agree. I'm surprised you're keeping AP with Simmons drafted @1st round.

Free Agent market.
OT market quickly gets significantly over priced and our pursuit ends early. This is where I would spend the FA money. Titans probably extend Tannehill. Could outbid Tenn for Conklin or Dennis Kelly.
Sign OC/OG Graham Glasgow. I like Glasgow also. Lions have cap room. May extend Glasgow.
Sign NT Michael Pierce. I like Pierce also. Ravens have cap space to re-sign.
Sign CB Darqueze Dennard. I like Dennard. Bengals have cap space.

2020 DRAFT........

1) Isaiah Simmons (OLB) CLEM 6’ 4” 230# I get Simmons. He's the most athletic player in draft. I just don't think he's our biggest PON.

2) Trey Adams (OT) UW 6’ 8” 314# (assuming all medicals come back clean) His medical history scares me.

3) Jeff Gladney (CB) TCU 6’ 183# Would be totally happy with this pick.

4A) Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB) VANDY 5’ 10” 218# Another pick I would be happy with.

4B) Yasir Durant (OT) MIZZOU 6’ 7” 330# Haven't seen enough of Durant. Got any tape links?

5) Adam Trautman (TE) DAYTON 6’ 6” 256# I'll have to check out.

6) Josiah Coatney (NT/DT) OLE MISS 6’ 4” 325# I liked what I've seen (limited tape) of Coatney.

7) Joe Reed (WR/RS) UVA 6’ 1” 215# Very deep WR class this year. Haven't specifically watched Joe Reed this year, but scouted him last year. There are some other WR's in 7th round too.


Vision Recap....

ROSTER

QB = ?, Taylor, Stick
RB = Vaughn, Ekeler, Jackson, Watt
TE = Henry, Trautman, Culkin, Green (Volert)
WR = Slayer, MWill, Reed, Scott, Moore, Cantrell (UDFAs)
IOL = Glasgow, Lamp, Feeney, QBerry, TScott
OT = Adams, Durant, Pipkins, Tevi *

DE/LEO = Bosa, SupaMel, Rochell, Nwosu
DT/NT = Pierce, Jones, Tillery, Coatney
LB = Simmons, White, Tranquil, Perryman, Egbule, Dzubner
CB = Hayward, MDavis, DKing, Gladney, Dennard, Facyson
DS = James, Jenkins, Adderly, Phillips, Teamer

PK= Badgley
P = Long
LS - Mazza

That's a pretty solid roster. Questions @ QB and LT... Mostly, we agree.

[powderblueboy]

Here is my two cents without a lot of thought:

1. Andrew Thomas / Jedrick Wills (they need a big boy badly - Wills is a dancing bear with well coordinated hands)
2. Jacob Eason ( i think he'll go in the twenties - just behind Herbert: not necessarily a Lynn choice)
3. traded to move up & grab Eason

[wu-dai clan]

[QUOTE=Boltnut;n895920]

Here was my early off-season plan.....

Our QB situation is a complete unknown so I am calculating going QB in 2021. Looks like you are not for extending PR? Is Tyrod adequate?

Retain with new contracts Hunter Henry, Adrian Phillips, Derek Watt, Sean Culkin, and all RFA/ERFA. Agree. I'm surprised you're keeping AP with Simmons drafted @1st round.

Free Agent market.
OT market quickly gets significantly over priced and our pursuit ends early. This is where I would spend the FA money. Titans probably extend Tannehill. Could outbid Tenn for Conklin or Dennis Kelly.
Sign OC/OG Graham Glasgow. I like Glasgow also. Lions have cap room. May extend Glasgow.
Sign NT Michael Pierce. I like Pierce also. Ravens have cap space to re-sign.
Sign CB Darqueze Dennard. I like Dennard. Bengals have cap space.

2020 DRAFT........

1) Isaiah Simmons (OLB) CLEM 6’ 4” 230# I get Simmons. He's the most athletic player in draft. I just don't think he's our biggest PON.

2) Trey Adams (OT) UW 6’ 8” 314# (assuming all medicals come back clean) His medical history scares me.

3) Jeff Gladney (CB) TCU 6’ 183# Would be totally happy with this pick.

4A) Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB) VANDY 5’ 10” 218# Another pick I would be happy with.

4B) Yasir Durant (OT) MIZZOU 6’ 7” 330# Haven't seen enough of Durant. Got any tape links?

5) Adam Trautman (TE) DAYTON 6’ 6” 256# I'll have to check out.

6) Josiah Coatney (NT/DT) OLE MISS 6’ 4” 325# I liked what I've seen (limited tape) of Coatney.

7) Joe Reed (WR/RS) UVA 6’ 1” 215# Very deep WR class this year. Haven't specifically watched Joe Reed this year, but scouted him last year. There are some other WR's in 7th round too.


Vision Recap....

ROSTER

QB = ?, Taylor, Stick
RB = Vaughn, Ekeler, Jackson, Watt
TE = Henry, Trautman, Culkin, Green (Volert)
WR = Slayer, MWill, Reed, Scott, Moore, Cantrell (UDFAs)
IOL = Glasgow, Lamp, Feeney, QBerry, TScott
OT = Adams, Durant, Pipkins, Tevi *

DE/LEO = Bosa, SupaMel, Rochell, Nwosu
DT/NT = Pierce, Jones, Tillery, Coatney
LB = Simmons, White, Tranquil, Perryman, Egbule, Dzubner
CB = Hayward, MDavis, DKing, Gladney, Dennard, Facyson
DS = James, Jenkins, Adderly, Phillips, Teamer

PK= Badgley
P = Long
LS - Mazza

That's a pretty solid roster. Questions @ QB and LT... Mostly, we agree.

The two most important positions on a roster.

At least you two yeah-who's have depth on your depth chart.

[Topcat]

Here is my "Fuck it, let's shake things up" first 3 round mock...

1. Ceedee Lamb WR OK- Here is a weapon that comes right out of the package with preloaded chemistry with our QB of the future...
2. Jalen Hurts QB OK- Chip on shoulder....something to prove, again...Lynn moves the team in his direction...
3. J.K. Dobbins- I think he is still on the board...hell, Hurts might fall this far...but we might have to trade back into the second for him. Bye bye, MG III

Talk about offensive reload...Rivers is gone and we can afford some help on oline, possible 2 gapper in the fourth...sometimes you gotta say "What the fuck..." and flip the rebuild switch.

Chargers= Giant Etch-a-Sketch...let's shake this bitch up!!

Disclaimor: Don't take this too seriously...just having some fun here folks...or am I?:thinking:

Like those "skill" players Lone...but...but...what about OT? FA?

[beachcomber]

am pretty much ready to remove the both of Wirfs and Simmons from my top six cluster, and.... wouldn't cry 'bout a WR-RB 1-2 punch.

and like Leki Fotu plenty, albeit do think there is some risk by association, and would prefer a draft strategy that drafts less for need and more for surety (if there is such a thing)…. enter Hamsah Nasirildeen round three.

reviews are way too mixed re: Herbert for my comfort level, and def do not want to go fishin' for any maybe OT, i.e. Niang, Leatherwood, etc.

get the Rashaard Lawrence love, and dude is prolly a solid, and.... makes me even more ardent for real NTs, i.e. Danny Shelton and/or Derrick B.

and Critty is Burrows anything more than make believe given that Cincy has inked in the first overall, and.... do believe in make believe, albeit do think that's what it/he is.... done deal as Bengal.

re: Conklin, do have something of a feelgood vibe/feel for the guy, albeit much prefer a one year deal w/Whitworth rather than to tear into a four year deal w/Jack, as who knows what lies ahead post PR ??

and peoples talking 'bout Rivers' replacement as some dictum/directive, albeit who ?? love much about Hurts, albeit again seems more like a need/sentimental pick than something that smacks of a rock solid pick ??

and Nutty.... does anyone have round 3 Orlando Brown value in this draft from your (most esteemed) estimation ??

Walker Little is returning to school, and Trey Adams is a plain and dire injury red alert....

re: Tyrod.... cannot fathom him as our marquis attraction moving into a new stadium ??

and Jedrick Wills ?? how much more is he than Dane Brugler's baby, who am not sure he is that far removed from the shadow of Rob Rang's wingman ?? there are plenty of other pundits who do just as well if not (much) better than Brugler in forecasting/fleshing out the draft.

[like54ninjas]

[QUOTE=Boltnut;n895920]

Here was my early off-season plan.....

Our QB situation is a complete unknown so I am calculating going QB in 2021. Looks like you are not for extending PR? Is Tyrod adequate?
No idea. Why left a ? currently.

Retain with new contracts Hunter Henry, Adrian Phillips, Derek Watt, Sean Culkin, and all RFA/ERFA. Agree. I'm surprised you're keeping AP with Simmons drafted @1st round.
AP would have been resigned prior to draft. AP is a core STer who provides quality defensive depth, leadership, and film breakdown at a very reasonable cost.

Free Agent market.
OT market quickly gets significantly over priced and our pursuit ends early. This is where I would spend the FA money. Titans probably extend Tannehill. Could outbid Tenn for Conklin or Dennis Kelly.
Sign OC/OG Graham Glasgow. I like Glasgow also. Lions have cap room. May extend Glasgow.
Sign NT Michael Pierce. I like Pierce also. Ravens have cap space to re-sign.
Sign CB Darqueze Dennard. I like Dennard. Bengals have cap space.
All FA signings are speculative at this point. Yours included. Steelers have squat for cap space does that mean we can sign Javon Hargrave?

2020 DRAFT........

1) Isaiah Simmons (OLB) CLEM 6’ 4” 230# I get Simmons. He's the most athletic player in draft. I just don't think he's our biggest PON.
not biggest PON. BPA. Would be ecstatic if D.Brown was the pick. QB, #1OT, #1CB, or if somehow Young drops would be other options for me.

2) Trey Adams (OT) UW 6’ 8” 314# (assuming all medicals come back clean) His medical history scares me.
me too. Why I gave the disclaimer

3) Jeff Gladney (CB) TCU 6’ 183# Would be totally happy with this pick.

4A) Ke’Shawn Vaughn (RB) VANDY 5’ 10” 218# Another pick I would be happy with.

4B) Yasir Durant (OT) MIZZOU 6’ 7” 330# Haven't seen enough of Durant. Got any tape links?

5) Adam Trautman (TE) DAYTON 6’ 6” 256# I'll have to check out.

6) Josiah Coatney (NT/DT) OLE MISS 6’ 4” 325# I liked what I've seen (limited tape) of Coatney.

7) Joe Reed (WR/RS) UVA 6’ 1” 215# Very deep WR class this year. Haven't specifically watched Joe Reed this year, but scouted him last year. There are some other WR's in 7th round too.
agree. Should be several UFDAs that may turn out.

Vision Recap....

ROSTER

QB = ?, Taylor, Stick
RB = Vaughn, Ekeler, Jackson, Watt
TE = Henry, Trautman, Culkin, Green (Volert)
WR = Slayer, MWill, Reed, Scott, Moore, Cantrell (UDFAs)
IOL = Glasgow, Lamp, Feeney, QBerry, TScott
OT = Adams, Durant, Pipkins, Tevi *

DE/LEO = Bosa, SupaMel, Rochell, Nwosu
DT/NT = Pierce, Jones, Tillery, Coatney
LB = Simmons, White, Tranquil, Perryman, Egbule, Dzubner
CB = Hayward, MDavis, DKing, Gladney, Dennard, Facyson
DS = James, Jenkins, Adderly, Phillips, Teamer

PK= Badgley
P = Long
LS - Mazza

That's a pretty solid roster. Questions @ QB and LT... Mostly, we agree.

Thanks. Yep we do.

[wu-dai clan]

Don't be scared of Trey Adams,
you two utes.
It's called "value drafting."
Page 148 of The Polian bible.

[foreigner]

My three rounds:

#1 Trade for a proven player.
#2 Trade for a proven player.
#3 Trade for a proven player.

I just dont trust this knuckleheads at all...

[powderblueboy]

[powderblueboy]

We see 2eye for the most part. I have questions about Wirfs ability to handle speed with length in both phases. TW moves well linearly in both run game and his kickslide but his COD while at speed is marginal. Sits deep in anchor and agile to adjust to counters. Questions about grip strength, lateral mirror ability, and lower body flexibility. He has trouble with quick burst inside moves and S2P length players. Examples 2019 MSST Outback Bowl, 2018 PennSt, 2019 Michigan. I like the kid just not top 10 but still more tape to breakdown.

I saw him go up against Mississippi State yesterday. His lack of grip strength is noticeable and a bit weird - guys disengaging and you are going WTF? The lower body flexibility was clear in that game to: might contribute to the disengaging, him not being in the in the right position. Also struggles to go laterally.

Straight ahead he's a monster. He's DJ Fluker with a better back pedal. I don't want Telesco to draft him, given what they would be passing up.

[powderblueboy]

am pretty much ready to remove the both of Wirfs and Simmons from my top six cluster, and.... wouldn't cry 'bout a WR-RB 1-2 punch.

and like Leki Fotu plenty, albeit do think there is some risk by association, and would prefer a draft strategy that drafts less for need and more for surety (if there is such a thing)…. enter Hamsah Nasirildeen round three.

reviews are way too mixed re: Herbert for my comfort level, and def do not want to go fishin' for any maybe OT, i.e. Niang, Leatherwood, etc.

get the Rashaard Lawrence love, and dude is prolly a solid, and.... makes me even more ardent for real NTs, i.e. Danny Shelton and/or Derrick B.

and Critty is Burrows anything more than make believe given that Cincy has inked in the first overall, and.... do believe in make believe, albeit do think that's what it/he is.... done deal as Bengal.

re: Conklin, do have something of a feelgood vibe/feel for the guy, albeit much prefer a one year deal w/Whitworth rather than to tear into a four year deal w/Jack, as who knows what lies ahead post PR ??

and peoples talking 'bout Rivers' replacement as some dictum/directive, albeit who ?? love much about Hurts, albeit again seems more like a need/sentimental pick than something that smacks of a rock solid pick ??

and Nutty.... does anyone have round 3 Orlando Brown value in this draft from your (most esteemed) estimation ??

Walker Little is returning to school, and Trey Adams is a plain and dire injury red alert....

re: Tyrod.... cannot fathom him as our marquis attraction moving into a new stadium ??

and Jedrick Wills ?? how much more is he than Dane Brugler's baby, who am not sure he is that far removed from the shadow of Rob Rang's wingman ?? there are plenty of other pundits who do just as well if not (much) better than Brugler in forecasting/fleshing out the draft.

He's my baby beachcomber, so he's so, so much more.

Actually, i looked at someone's mock draft not expecting him to make the first round: it surprised me that they had him going at #4. Was that Brugler?

[21&500]

It wouldn't shock me one bit to see Leatherwood slip to the second...I have seen nothing impressive about him...definitely not a top 10 pick. Wills is the Alabama tackle you want.

Agreed to a degree
the athleticism is real but not much after that
Leatherwood in the second would be good value