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  • like54ninjas
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    Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
    No Andrew Thomas?
    Seems he has Wills rated higher. There is no OT prospects in this class that don’t need some work.

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    • wu-dai clan
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      Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

      Seems he has Wills rated higher. There is no OT prospects in this class that don’t need some work.
      Wills looks the cleanest IMV.
      You don't know ball

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      • like54ninjas
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        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

        Wills looks the cleanest IMV.
        Wills has the best passpro sets, body positioning, handstrike placement, patience & ability to reset anchor.
        I do not like his motor/effort/looking for work after initial block or working upfield, and he is not a FINISHER.
        Becton, Wills, Thomas are only separated by 2 grade points. Mekhi highest ceiling and Wills highest floor.
        All 3 are day 1 starters but I have several other OTs that are day 1 starters but not necessarily with potential of top 3.
        Last edited by like54ninjas; 02-21-2020, 02:07 PM.
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        Nasir
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        Parham
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        • nomad1946
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          Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
          No Andrew Thomas?

          Nope, I think Wills is a better prospect.

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          • beachcomber
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            Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

            I think had they stuck with Rivers, they may well have had to invest early in oline...but I don't believe this FO values picking oline high, typically, and I believe our coach thinks a mobile QB solves a lot of our young, developing lines problems. I think early in the draft, you will see us targeting stars and skill players, and any addressing of the oline will probably happen in FA and mid to late rounds...just my prediction.
            what if they just skip our "intact" Oline altogether ??

            Okung/Trent - Lamp - Q/Mike P. - Dan - Sam/Pip

            so we're lookin' @WR, RB & CB earlier than later, and.... ??

            an OC, LEO, MLB and CB2 ??
            RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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            • nomad1946
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              Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

              what if they just skip our "intact" Oline altogether ??

              Okung/Trent - Lamp - Q/Mike P. - Dan - Sam/Pip

              so we're lookin' @WR, RB & CB earlier than later, and.... ??

              an OC, LEO, MLB and CB2 ??
              I am somewhat thinking that it would be

              Okung/Pipkin - Lamp - QBerry/Mike P. - Dan Feeny - Tevi/Trent Scott

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              • beachcomber
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                Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
                beach, what do mean by intangibles?
                mostly just the sense I get from the guy.... eye trust my intuition.... (not as empirical as some of you guys, as one of my recent fave quotes is: intelligence without intuition is.... dangerous)

                like to watch their interview vids.

                if you watch Fromm.... dude gets it, does not hesitate w/things, and is on point.... he has strong intangibles.

                Anthony Gordon is another quick study and rapid fire mind, and like his aplomb/demeanor on the field as well.... think he's got a chance @things.

                Eason am not so sure, but willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.... don't like his compare to Christian Hackenberg (a guy I liked his "intangibles," and likened to aspects of Broadway Joe)

                and haven't watched any Burrow interviews, albeit not overly taken by the mindsets/demeanors of Tua, Herbert, Hurts and Love.... how tight is there ship ?? how on point are they, or are they just really well coached/schooled ?? I listen to some of them and they sound like they are trying to say the right thing, rather than just naturally in the know.

                and obviously they know their football and can take care of their biz on the field, just not seeing that innate knack for things, and that sixth sense of sorts that Brady was hailed for (after the fact by most).
                RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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                • powderblueboy
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                  Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                  Wills has the best passpro sets, body positioning, handstrike placement, patience & ability to reset anchor.
                  I do not like his motor/effort/looking for work after initial block or working upfield, and he is not a FINISHER.
                  Becton, Wills, Thomas are only separated by 2 grade points. Mekhi highest ceiling and Wills highest floor.
                  All 3 are day 1 starters but I have several other OTs that are day 1 starters but not necessarily with potential of top 3.
                  Agree. I noticed Wills just give up on plays routinely. Love his pass pro.

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    Where to look...

                    MIA, JAC, IND
                    all have extra draft capital
                    and a scenario may play out
                    where they are willing to trade up
                    to #6 for Herbert, Love, whoever.

                    Our dream trade goal might be to
                    pry an extra round two or round three
                    by moving down a few spots.

                    There will be elite playmakers and
                    scheme fit Olinemen on the board.

                    Off the top of my head, Xavier McKinney
                    is a perfect fit for our Cover 3. He's a nice consolation prize for Simmons. I like this guy. Consistent. Versatile. Instinct. Tackles like a mo fo. A partner in crime for Derwin. gusD may storm the draft room for this guy.

                    Presuming that we roll with Tyrod,
                    our big question is
                    do we have very high interest
                    in the big three defenders at #6 ?
                    Okudah--Brown--Simmons.

                    This is what you should be seeing
                    as far as our options go
                    in a nutshell...

                    You don't know ball

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      LOL...Fantasyland...TDN machine approved.

                      6. MIA.
                      18. Justin Herbert QB. fr MIA
                      26. Andrew Thomas OT. fr MIA
                      37. Jeff Queen WILL.
                      71. Bryce Hall CB.
                      102. BUF.
                      118. Jordan Elliott DT. fr BUF
                      133. Tyler Johnson WR.
                      137. Ben Bredeson OG. fr BUF
                      166. BUF.
                      197. Jacob Breeland TE.

                      MIA took Tua at 5 and wanted their top rated OT ORT Jedrick Wills to protect Tua's blind side.

                      We passed on juicy talent at 6, then really lucked into Herbert AND Thomas with mid/late round 1 picks.

                      BUF, having never replaced Incognito's tone setting, badly wanted Logan Stenberg, nasty OG to fuel their running game. We gave them 102 and 166, then struck Trench Gold with Jordan Elliott AND Ben Bredeson.

                      All perfectly in line with Drafttek Trade Value Chart fwiw...

                      No RB for LAC was the one problem...UFAs, UDFAs a plenty at that vital position, or resign Gordon at a decent price.

                      This is pretty damn thorough...digest or ignore at will...check out scheme fit/depth chart ramifications.
                      Last edited by wu-dai clan; 02-24-2020, 03:20 AM.
                      You don't know ball

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        I've run ~ 75 to 150 mocks now @ TDN,
                        experimenting, trading, etc, with the caveat that their Big Board/PONs for all 32 are not perfect, but pretty good anyhow.

                        MIA, BUF and IND have draft capital,
                        and with slotting, are potential trade partners...what I've found to be the case.

                        We can make a lot of hay by trading down in the middle rounds, acquiring extra picks at our PONs, namely WR, CB, RB.

                        Let's get scientific.
                        You don't know ball

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                        • boltfanseattle
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                          TT's going BPA. I say its in this order:

                          1Isiah Simmons - Purely based on BPA. Total gamechanger. Lynn rolls with Tyrod for the year. OT' get picked up in the second.
                          2Tua Tagovailoa - Another game changer. If he doesn't pan out, or Tyrod keeps the job, TT can flip him for a first or second the next year. No loss either way. OT gets picked up in the second.
                          3One of the OT's - Lynn says Tyrod could be the starter, this would be proof of his belief. WR gets picked up in the second.
                          4Jordan Love - Truly believe Lynn values him more than herbert. Is jordan love more valuable than an OT though? This one is hard. OT gets picked up in the second.

                          I think they pass on Justin Herbert. Herbert I think falls to 10-15 (accuracy needs work, has a long delivery, simple oregon system, bad track record with oregon qbs).

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