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  • wu-dai clan
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    #37
    Originally posted by Critty View Post
    1. CIN: Burrow-QB, LSU

    2. WAS: Young-DE, Ohio St

    3. DET: Brown-DT, Auburn

    4. NYG: Okudah-CB, Ohio St.

    5. MIA: Herbert-QB, Oregon

    6. LAC: Simmons-LB, Clemson


    Simmons projects to WILL for us, ahead of TDavis/Kyzir.

    I can live with this.

    High impact player.

    Increase defensive team speed.
    We do not play modern football.

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    • Boltjolt
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      #38
      I think he is a kind of wasted pick at WILL while also considering we dont blitz much with LBs. Would be a better player in the Kam Chanceller role at SS or Phillips role type but we already have Derwin.
      IDK id really be hesitant with drafting him at #6 considering what will be there instead. Depends on the plans Gus would have for using him. Wouldnt hate it but would be wondering what could of been for the OL or QB.
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      • wu-dai clan
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        #39
        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
        I think he is a kind of wasted pick at WILL while also considering we dont blitz much with LBs. Would be a better player in the Kam Chanceller role at SS or Phillips role type but we already have Derwin.
        IDK id really be hesitant with drafting him at #6 considering what will be there instead. Depends on the plans Gus would have for using him. Wouldnt hate it but would be wondering what could of been for the OL or QB.
        We would move Derwin and Simmons around, don't you think ?

        Lots of chatter around here about improving our speed on defense.
        We do not play modern football.

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        • Boltjolt
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          #40
          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

          We would move Derwin and Simmons around, don't you think ?

          Lots of chatter around here about improving our speed on defense.
          I don't know. Is Gus that creative?
          11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia (plus AZ 2025 1st)
          35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
          37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
          66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
          69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
          100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
          110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
          140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
          181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
          225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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          • wu-dai clan
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            #41
            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            I don't know. Is Gus that creative?
            Ummmmmmm.
            Yee-ahhh !?!
            We do not play modern football.

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            • Boltjolt
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              #42
              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

              Ummmmmmm.
              Yee-ahhh !?!
              Don't see it when it comes to pressure
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              35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
              37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
              66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
              69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
              100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
              110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
              140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
              181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
              225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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              • wu-dai clan
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                #43
                Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                Don't see it when it comes to pressure
                Or coverage !
                We do not play modern football.

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                • beachcomber
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                  #44
                  top six >> Andrew Thomas, Chase, D. Brown, Swift, Joe, CeeDee

                  top eleven >> Dobbins, Wirfs, Kinlaw, Herbert, Epenesa

                  hands off/don't touch 'em >> Simmons, Jedrick, Fulton, Jeudy, JLo, Ruggs, Okudah, Tua
                  RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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                  • FarAwayBoltFan
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                    #45
                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                    We would move Derwin and Simmons around, don't you think ?

                    Lots of chatter around here about improving our speed on defense.

                    Derwin rocked in our defensive scheme. Derwin and Simmons are similar players. So it is logical that Simmons would similarly rock in our defense. [That would be good.]

                    But, I'm not sure how both of them would line up. Would one be a LB? Wouldn't it be more likely that they would both line up at Safety and swap around as SS/FS? (Imagine opposing QB grief trying to figure out which would stay in the box and which would drop deep)

                    If so, what would Nasir Adderley's role be? (presuming he is healthy in 2020)

                    If Adderley is out of a job that might reduce the team's interest in Simmons.

                    But, if memory serves, Adderley also played CB at Delaware. Could Adderley be an option (upgrade?) opposite Casey at CB?

                    If so, drafting Simmons might upgrade 2 positions (S & CB). [That would also be good.]

                    Thoughts?

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by FarAwayBoltFan View Post


                      Derwin rocked in our defensive scheme. Derwin and Simmons are similar players. So it is logical that Simmons would similarly rock in our defense. [That would be good.] Many here are taking a cursory look and calling Simmons a Safety. My projection is WILL, NLB w/Derwin and Phillips. DIME packages will be used a lot.

                      But, I'm not sure how both of them would line up. Would one be a LB? Wouldn't it be more likely that they would both line up at Safety and swap around as SS/FS? (Imagine opposing QB grief trying to figure out which would stay in the box and which would drop deep) Agreed.

                      If so, what would Nasir Adderley's role be? (presuming he is healthy in 2020) Developmental DB.

                      If Adderley is out of a job that might reduce the team's interest in Simmons. Plenty of room for both. Impact defenders are welcome, no matter what our depth chart looks like.

                      But, if memory serves, Adderley also played CB at Delaware. Could Adderley be an option (upgrade?) opposite Casey at CB? I have Adderley as successor to Casey Hayward.

                      If so, drafting Simmons might upgrade 2 positions (S & CB). [That would also be good.] Simmons is good at coverage, as well as run n hit and blitzing.Gus will have no problem using this player with Derwin, and disguising our defenses. With correct personnel Gus will use different looks. Trenchers (maybe you are one ? :smile are superficial and dismissive of any pick that is not one of the big three OTs.

                      Thoughts?
                      Thanks for asking.
                      Thanks for the convo.
                      And the civility.
                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • Boltjolt
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                        #47
                        Originally posted by FarAwayBoltFan View Post


                        Derwin rocked in our defensive scheme. Derwin and Simmons are similar players. So it is logical that Simmons would similarly rock in our defense. [That would be good.]

                        But, I'm not sure how both of them would line up. Would one be a LB? Wouldn't it be more likely that they would both line up at Safety and swap around as SS/FS? (Imagine opposing QB grief trying to figure out which would stay in the box and which would drop deep)

                        If so, what would Nasir Adderley's role be? (presuming he is healthy in 2020)

                        If Adderley is out of a job that might reduce the team's interest in Simmons.

                        But, if memory serves, Adderley also played CB at Delaware. Could Adderley be an option (upgrade?) opposite Casey at CB?

                        If so, drafting Simmons might upgrade 2 positions (S & CB). [That would also be good.]

                        Thoughts?
                        Adderly needs to toughen up first and foremost.
                        11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia (plus AZ 2025 1st)
                        35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
                        37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
                        66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
                        69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
                        100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
                        110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
                        140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
                        181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
                        225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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                        • FarAwayBoltFan
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                          Adderly needs to toughen up first and foremost.
                          Toughness was his college forte:



                          "Competitive Toughness - Extremely physical and hard-nosed with an elite competitive motor. Played his heart out in a blowout loss to North Dakota State, chasing down every play from all over the field. Relentless competitor who does not back down from anyone and plays with excellent conditioning."

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