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  • jubei
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    Originally posted by ChargingBolts View Post

    My point is there is nothing wrong with throwing an INT on 3rd and long if you are going to be punting on the following down for the same distance anyways. I get that you think if it's 3rd and 10 to go for 10 yards when the D is playing to stop 10 yards. My thinking is occasionally you can go for a homerun bomb, if not in that situation then when? Teams go for homeruns once or twice a game and you are upset that the Chargers just like every other team went for a homerun? If the WR couldn't catch it, it would of been the same result as a punt. Get my position now?
    I still dont get this. call me dense...but throw an INT with another down to go? why not try to complete something more likely to be completed and let your guy try to get some YAC? So even if you get a completion that's short of the sticks you get some net yardage for your ensuing punt. IME it's always good to get some yards and punting versus an INT with still another down left. It's not like rivers has a huge arm where he can let it rip equal to a 60 yard punt. even in the thin MC air he underthew his man.

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  • jubei
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    Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

    Yeah, it was 4rth down on the Charger 42 yard line. McCree intercepted the ball some 25 yards down field.
    thx for reaffirming...I know I forget plenty but I for sure thought this was one of the dumbest plays of a charger. just BAD situational football.

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  • powderblueboy
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    Originally posted by BearWithJetpack View Post

    But the McCree interception happened on 4th and 5?
    Yeah, it was 4rth down on the Charger 42 yard line. McCree intercepted the ball some 25 yards down field.

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  • Caslon
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    Originally posted by jubei View Post

    so many moons ago I dont remember. so he made TWO mistakes in one play?! and he even said he'd do that again except protect the ball better! numbskull!
    As happens so often, a player wants to continue being macho and not get ribbed in the locker room after the game for playing it so humorously safe.

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  • jubei
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    Originally posted by Paradoxrip View Post

    LOL yes he did. It was 4th and 5.
    so many moons ago I dont remember. so he made TWO mistakes in one play?! and he even said he'd do that again except protect the ball better! numbskull!

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  • Paradoxrip
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    Originally posted by pacstud View Post

    McCree did not intercept on 4th down, he simply failed to get down on an INT with a lead late.

    We did not give up a down. Rivers pushed the ball deep middle to Patton. He underthrew him (imo). On third and long.
    LOL yes he did. It was 4th and 5.

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  • ChargingBolts
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    Originally posted by jubei View Post

    my way of thinking on the "INT as a punt" is you do that on 4th down, not on 3rd down...unless I got the down wrong when he threw that "INT as a punt". If you still have a chance to go for somehting more sure you go for it on 3rd down. On 4th down is when you might take that long risky shot. Of course this is all predicated on it being 3rd down when he threw that "INT as a punt" pass. But if it was actually 4th down then I dont mind that INT as much...it's a punt with no return.
    My point is there is nothing wrong with throwing an INT on 3rd and long if you are going to be punting on the following down for the same distance anyways. I get that you think if it's 3rd and 10 to go for 10 yards when the D is playing to stop 10 yards. My thinking is occasionally you can go for a homerun bomb, if not in that situation then when? Teams go for homeruns once or twice a game and you are upset that the Chargers just like every other team went for a homerun? If the WR couldn't catch it, it would of been the same result as a punt. Get my position now?

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  • pacstud
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    Originally posted by BearWithJetpack View Post

    But the McCree interception happened on 4th and 5?
    If so (I have PTSD and blocked it out), then it would depend on if he thought he could house it. We know he couldn't.

    Just happened to my team last year. Up 7, last minute, other team throws a pick. Kids are waving "go down"...he houses it.

    Sure.

    Bottom line, the "good as a punt" would hold on Rivers INT in that particular instance.

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  • BearWithJetpack
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    Originally posted by pacstud View Post

    McCree did not intercept on 4th down, he simply failed to get down on an INT with a lead late.

    We did not give up a down. Rivers pushed the ball deep middle to Patton. He underthrew him (imo). On third and long.
    But the McCree interception happened on 4th and 5?

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  • pacstud
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    Originally posted by jubei View Post

    tell that to marlon freakin-mccree! so you give up a down instead of trying for something a bit more secure? and going to patton of all players?
    McCree did not intercept on 4th down, he simply failed to get down on an INT with a lead late.

    We did not give up a down. Rivers pushed the ball deep middle to Patton. He underthrew him (imo). On third and long.

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  • jubei
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    Originally posted by pacstud View Post

    Generally DBs know not to catch a (deep) pass attempt on 4th down.

    An int on 3rd down can be considered a "punt" in that if it's incomplete, you're punting anyway.
    tell that to marlon freakin-mccree! so you give up a down instead of trying for something a bit more secure? and going to patton of all players?

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  • pacstud
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    Originally posted by jubei View Post

    my way of thinking on the "INT as a punt" is you do that on 4th down, not on 3rd down...unless I got the down wrong when he threw that "INT as a punt". If you still have a chance to go for somehting more sure you go for it on 3rd down. On 4th down is when you might take that long risky shot. Of course this is all predicated on it being 3rd down when he threw that "INT as a punt" pass. But if it was actually 4th down then I dont mind that INT as much...it's a punt with no return.
    Generally DBs know not to catch a (deep) pass attempt on 4th down.

    An int on 3rd down can be considered a "punt" in that if it's incomplete, you're punting anyway.

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