Chiefs Ship 1st Rounder, 3 Other Picks To Ravens for Orlando Brown + Picks

[Cdn Bolt]

Ravens received #31, #94, #136 - 1st, 3rd, & 4th plus a 2022 5th.
Chiefs received Z2 (only 1 yr left on contract), #58 (only have #63) in top 140 picks, and 2022 6th.

By your logic #58 is basically just a 3rd rounder.
So who got the better deal?

BAL's 2022 5th we'll assume is the middle pick, same for KC's 6th rounder for simplicity. The net value for BAL is = 24

Using the trade value charts, the Ravens get #31 ( 600), #94 (124) #136 (38) + 24 (net 2022 picks) = 786
Chiefs get #58 (320) + Brown

So Brown is worth = 786- 320 = 466

That is pick #44 on the trade value chart or a mid 2nd rounder (12th pick in 2nd ).

It looks like a fair trade for both teams numerically. A pro bowler for a 2nd rnd pick maybe an edge to KC in real terms though.

[Xenos]

[equivocation]

Wonder if Baltimore is interested in 13 overall

id take 27 and 31

Jenkins/AVT/Little at 27

Little/Radunz/DB at 31

Works for me.

Dont think Radunz or Little make it past 40.

[Xenos]

The Chiefs have been running up the credit card bill that is about come due. Next year they have 24 players under contract with $26.8 million in cap space. Conversely, we have 34 players under contract and have $69.4 million in cap space. They are going to have to make some tough roster decisions soon so they better make a deep playoff run this year (which I expect).

They’ll probably end up cutting or restructuring guys like Frank Clark and Matthieu to make room again next year. They can probably get away with it in the short term but not if they keep trading away their picks.

[Xenos]

This isn't a good news for us. Unless they overpay him, I can't see this being good for us.

It’s good news if he sucks and doesn’t fit their scheme. Reid hasn’t made mistakes too often on offense, it’s been mostly on the defensive side. But there’s a first time for everything.

[equivocation]

I think I'd rather roll the dice on Fisher.

[Boltnut]

KC also added an additional 2nd round pick for this year...... so they basically got Brown for nearly free..... swapping their #31 pick for a late 2nd rounder...... the other picks were minor....

You are making a good point about the OT's in this draft, they may be good prospects and have potential but they may not be ready to start as rookies and not all may ver successful..... Brown is a skilled experienced pro bowl quality vet who already knows how to play the position and my guess is KC will find a way to lock him up long term.....

Yep. That's just the nature of draft picks... you never know, until you know. Of the first 4 OT's taken last year, the worst of them all (Thomas) was the first taken. And he was consensus #1 (here on TPB and professional pundits). Now, is Thomas a bust...? Probably not... probably just a tough time adjusting to the NFL. The NFL ain't easy. Not everyone is built for the NFL. Mostly, NFL OT's are physical marvels... they just don't make humans like that. Even the best have adjustments to make. Usually 2nd and 3rd round OT's don't make it in this league. Every once in a while a guy will slip through (Brown or Armstead). Most get chewed up and spat out 4 years later... or depth.

[Charge!]

IMO, Chiefs looked at all of those short-armed OT's and determined there were no legitimate, long-termed LT prospects @#31 and pulled the trigger on OBJ.

Everybody won. KC gets to rent a legitimate LT for a year to make another SB push. Brown gets to showcase his talent @LT. And the Ravens get basically a high-2nd round pick for someone they were going to lose next year anyways.

This trade shows us exactly what I've been saying for a while now.... There probably won't be legitimate LT prospects around by the late 1st round (why KC pulled the trade). And there will be a lot of quality RT prospects there instead (why Ravens moved into #31 slot... to replace RT).

KC also added an additional 2nd round pick for this year...... so they basically got Brown for nearly free..... swapping their #31 pick for a late 2nd rounder...... the other picks were minor....

You are making a good point about the OT's in this draft, they may be good prospects and have potential but they may not be ready to start as rookies and not all may ver successful..... Brown is a skilled experienced pro bowl quality vet who already knows how to play the position and my guess is KC will find a way to lock him up long term.....

[Boltnut]

Which means if the Chargers need some rookie to start this year at LT, they need to draft one at #13.
And Slater might not be that guy.

Maybe they trade up to get Darrisaw?
:anchorjump:

Chargers could pass LT in the 1st... but taking a big risk. Or they see something that nobody else does.
Darrisaw should be there @#13 (unless Vikings trade up).
I'm against trading up. I think we need to keep those 2nd/3rd picks for defense (CB/S/Edge)... even if it means missing out on a true 1st-round LT prospect. In that unfortunate scenario, it would be reasonable to reach for D'Ante Smith as a project (2nd) or kick the tires on older/injured OT's (Villanueva or Fisher).

[Boltnut]

Or it means there will be no legitimate plug and play LT at #31 (which is generally the case).
Fat Andy is as good an evaluator of Oline talent as anyone.

Cosmi, Little, Radunz will take time if they establish themselves there.

Exactly! Cosmi, Little, and Radunz may not even make it to @31. I've been saying that for a while. A number of teams in the #14-31 slots needing OT's. Lots of them needing RT's (Raiders, Bears, Titans, Ravens) and others need LT's (Vikings, Colts, Steelers).

IMO, the LT's are: Sewell, Darrisaw, Little, Radunz... all getting 1st round grades from me.
If Chargers choose to bypass LT, even then, these guys don't make it to #31.
Sewell - gone before #13
Darrisaw - Vikings
Little - Colts
Radunz - Steelers

IMO, the RT's are: Slater, Jenkins, Cosmi... all getting 1st round grades from me.
Slater - chosen as a guard by Panthers or Giants. Possible move to OT later.
Jenkins - Raiders possible, Bears at least.
Cosmi - Bears, Titans, or Ravens.

Ravens are hoping that 2 or 3 of these teams pass on OT/OG in the 1st round.
2nd round OT's that could be reached on @RT: Brown, Leatherwood, Eichenberg.

I think this Chiefs/Ravens move is very telling.

[powderblueboy]

Which means if the Chargers need some rookie to start this year at LT, they need to draft one at #13.
And Slater might not be that guy.

Maybe they trade up to get Darrisaw?
:anchorjump:

[powderblueboy]

IMO, Chiefs looked at all of those short-armed OT's and determined there were no legitimate, long-termed LT prospects @#31 and pulled the trigger on OBJ.

Everybody won. KC gets to rent a legitimate LT for a year to make another SB push. Brown gets to showcase his talent @LT. And the Ravens get basically a high-2nd round pick for someone they were going to lose next year anyways.

This trade shows us exactly what I've been saying for a while now.... There probably won't be legitimate LT prospects around by the late 1st round (why KC pulled the trade). And there will be a lot of quality RT prospects there instead (why Ravens moved into #31 slot... to replace RT).

Or it means there will be no legitimate plug and play LT at #31 (which is generally the case).
Fat Andy is as good an evaluator of Oline talent as anyone.

Cosmi, Little, Radunz will take time if they establish themselves there.