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  • like54ninjas
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    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
    A 6’7” leo!!?
    wowzers
    Indeed.
    Obviously has exceptional length for the position. His frame still needs to fill out and needs work on his passrush arsenal. Extremely athletic with bend, explosion, converts S2P, sets a stout pressing edge, and has zone coverage chops.

    Jordan Smith - UAB is another 6’7” monster that can play LEO or SDE.
    My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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    • Formula 21
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      Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
      1) WALKER LITTLE - (OT) - STAN - SR - 6’7” / 320#
      — Big, athletic, physical bully with a gritty play style. Tosses edge rushers around arc, dominates 1on1 matchups in run game, gets tremendous movement/uproots defenders, long arms/huge wingspan, impressive grip strength, deep knee bend anchor with ideal back arch, quality kickslide that gets vertical depth, needs to improve power step to close out inside counters, nasty finisher, high football IQ in stunt reco, solid movement skills to 2nd level, shows quality patience before throwing punch, power in strikes jar opponents from desired path, plays through whistle and loves to finish opponents to ground, bad game vs ND (18) but recovered to limit a total of 3 pressures/0 sacks over next 10 games.
      2) PATRICK JONES II - (SDE/LEO) - PITT - RSR - 6’5” / 260#
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      Big, long, great 1st step, productive technician, with a ton of great reps on tape. Has several passrush moves/counters (1-arm post, push/pull, straight low center bull, speed shoulder bend, inside counter rip/swim, faint 2-hand swipe), sets physical edge to collapse versus inside run, beats pulls/traps with speed/length/stout physicality, can work inside on passing downs, forces turnovers (5 FF), strong aggressive hand strikes, excels with hand strikes/footwork in coordination, works back to QB instead of just getting pushed around the arc.
      3A) JAYCEE HORN - (CB) - SC - JR - 6’1” / 205#
      — Exciting package of size, speed, agility, intensity, competitiveness, and physicality. NFL heritage (Joe Horn’s son), tremendous COD/agility, excels in press/off-man, and off-zone, disruptive hands at catch point, very physical at TOR and CP, excellent footwork in pedal/transition/plant-break, explosive closing burst/speed, enthusiasm for edge/run support, quality physical tackler, quality but not elite ballskills, good flexibility to flip hips and run routes for WR, too handsy on double moves.
      3B) CHARLIE KOLAR - TE - ISU - RJR - 6’6” / 260#
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      Elite work ethic provides for a prospect to exceed his physical abilities which are already fantastic. CK possesses elite size, length, catch radius, can play inline/wing/HBack/slot/out wide, field/location awareness, excels at high catch point, innate ball tracking, supreme contact balance, COD agility, incredible redzone target, and is a natural hands catcher of the football. More than Adequate positional blocker that stays connected to assignments, must improve upper/lower/core body strength.
      4) CHARLES SNOWDEN - (LEO/OTTO) - UVA - SR - 6’7” / 245#
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      - Incredible H/W/S combo, just scratching the surface of his potential , length for days, big time motor, sets strong edge using length/quickness, relentless backside pursuit, learning zone coverage drops, offers position versatility, disrupts passing lanes, bends then 90 degree flattens which special for his size, starting to fill out frame (260#-265# projected in 2 yrs), limited passrush arsenal, inconsistent as a pass rusher but solid YOY improvement, needs strength/muscle mass addition, tremendous wrap up/drive tackler.
      5) COY CRONK - (OG/OT) - IOWA/IU - RSR - 6’5” / 320#
      — 4 yr starter OLT @ IU injury game 3 2019 cut short senior season/grad transfer to Iowa with move to ORT), will move to inside OG at NFL level, good feet/mover, lots of length he uses to run defenders around arc, tough and plays with nasty streak, loves to finish defenders to ground, easy mover to 2nd/3rd levels, needs to improve overall strength, punch locations are inconsistent, good hip flex action to drive through down blocks, solid deep anchor fundamentals, held own vs Chase Young in 19, solid down step to close out inside counters. Can hold up at OT but has very high ceiling @ OG.
      6) ZYON MCCOLLUM - CB - SHSU - SR - 6’4” / 200#
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      (No games until spring) - 4.4 ballhawk with size/length, plays with physicality and a nasty attitude, will flat out hit you, excellent ankle/hip flexibility, understands route concepts, GAME CHANGER (9 INT/2 pick 6’s, 4 FF) in just 3 seasons, disrupts catch point, speed turns need work, explosive plant/drive ability from zone back pedal, strong hands for ripping ball away, tremendous vision in locating potential receiving threats in zone, loves contact/fierce in run support, true impact tackler, impressive closing burst, needs work on TOR denial techniques, sleeper until the combine.
      7) LORENZO NEAL JR (DT/NT) PUR - 6’3” / 325#
      — Big, stout, physical man child that plays with leverage, quicks and power that’s lacks ideal length. NFL legacy, wrestling background, fantastic at POA, sticks/stacks/sheds single or double teams, explosive out of stance with leverage, has outstanding quick slap/swim move, provides some ability on passing downs, wrecks OCs when in 0tech, good movement laterally to close zone lanes, ball separation skills (4FF), lack of length limits tackling radius.

      ———————————————

      UDFA - Prospects
      Spencer Brown - (RB) - UAB - SR - 6’ / 225#
      — Physical downhill runner, excellent jump cut, decisive vision with initial burst, fantastic ball security, incredible leg drive power, redzone weapon/ TD maker, solid receiving skills, good base and recognition skills in blitz pickup, physical stiff-arm, runs with excellent pad level / behind pads, falls forward, drags would be tacklers, not elusive yet 1on1 he won’t be brought down.

      Tony Poljan - (TE) - UVA - RSR - 6’7” / 265#
      — Good athlete, QB convert (3rd year as TE), soft hands, understands coverage concepts, rabid enthusiastic blocker (technique needs work), seem/redzone weapon, breaks tackles in mass, powerful RAC, plays through whistle, physically/mentally tough, fights for yardage YAC, baby gronk, 1 more sleeper
      Nicely focused our our needs.
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      The Wasted Decade is done.
      Build Back Better.

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      • AK47
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        Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
        A 6’7” leo!!?
        wowzers
        Lorenzo Neal Jr??? I watched highlights. Looked more like Jamal Williams Jr.

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        • 21&500
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          Originally posted by AK47 View Post

          Lorenzo Neal Jr??? I watched highlights. Looked more like Jamal Williams Jr.
          Ya I read his profile and I’m sure he’s somewhat of a project, mid to late round pick
          but having LoNeal as your dad has to count for something
          if he were a Charger, the pressure is that much higher to live up to the name
          I hope we target this guy
          .005 Brock Bowers, TE/HB/SR Georgia
          .037 Braden Fiske, DT Florida St.
          .069 Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
          .105 Brenden Rice, WR USC
          .110 Mason McCormick, OG/OC S. Dakota St.
          .140 Zak Zinter, OG Michigan
          .181 Nehemiah Pritchett, CB Auburn
          .225 Ainias Smith, WR Texas A&M
          .253 Carson Steele, RB UCLA

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          • beachcomber
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            is a red zone RB a need for next season ??

            https://www.nfl.com/news/adam-thielen-derrick-henry-among-top-10-red-zone-threats
            RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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            • like54ninjas
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              Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
              We need all the redzone weapons we can get.
              My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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              • beachcomber
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                Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                We need all the redzone weapons we can get.
                well.... in theory, we're good w/MW, HH and Jdime.... the question is, is JKelly a red zone back, or would we better served w/a heavier weighted option @RB ??
                RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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                • beachcomber
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                  1) CB Eric Stokes
                  2) OG Trey Smith
                  2) SS Hamsah Nasirildeen*
                  3) OG Deonte Brown
                  3) NT Tyler Shelvin**
                  C) RB Kylin Hill***
                  4) RT Daniel Faalele
                  5) LB Palaei Gaoteote IV
                  6) TE Jake Ferguson
                  7) OC Ryan McCollum

                  UDFA) NT Tuli Letligasenoa, OT Syrus Tuitele, LB Kuony Deng, TE Cade Otton, WR Brandon Smith, WIL Zane Zandier

                  * round one trade down w/Jax
                  ** round two trade down w/Cleveland
                  *** proposed comp pick for loss of PR


                  FA * QB Matt Schaub, WR Chris Godwin, OC Alex Mack, NT Danny Shelton, ILB Jon Bostic, SS Eric Reid
                  RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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                  • like54ninjas
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                    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

                    well.... in theory, we're good w/MW, HH and Jdime.... the question is, is JKelly a red zone back, or would we better served w/a heavier weighted option @RB ??
                    Big boned doesn’t make a redzone threat. Check the list you posted.
                    Kelley is a tough, hard runner. Let’s see how he does over the next 11 games.
                    RB is a position group that can always use more young, healthy, cheap talent.
                    My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

                    MikeDub
                    K9
                    Nasir
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                    Parham
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                    • beachcomber
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                      Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                      Big boned doesn’t make a redzone threat. Check the list you posted.
                      Kelley is a tough, hard runner. Let’s see how he does over the next 11 games.
                      RB is a position group that can always use more young, healthy, cheap talent.
                      am a big fan of Kelly, and yes agree.... hence I didn't go fishing for a "need" in next year's draft, and am tabbing Kylin Hill as my RB of choice.

                      ....paging Bobby Holly,
                      RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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                      • Formula 21
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                        Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
                        1) CB Eric Stokes
                        2) OG Trey Smith
                        2) SS Hamsah Nasirildeen*
                        3) OG Deonte Brown
                        3) NT Tyler Shelvin**
                        C) RB Kylin Hill***
                        4) RT Daniel Faalele
                        5) LB Palaei Gaoteote IV
                        6) TE Jake Ferguson
                        7) OC Ryan McCollum

                        UDFA) NT Tuli Letligasenoa, OT Syrus Tuitele, LB Kuony Deng, TE Cade Otton, WR Brandon Smith, WIL Zane Zandier

                        * round one trade down w/Jax
                        ** round two trade down w/Cleveland
                        *** proposed comp pick for loss of PR


                        FA * QB Matt Schaub, WR Chris Godwin, OC Alex Mack, NT Danny Shelton, ILB Jon Bostic, SS Eric Reid
                        Trade downs are nice, but not TT’s style. Statistically, it appears you do better by trading down.
                        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                        The Wasted Decade is done.
                        Build Back Better.

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                        • 21&500
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                          So I remember people saying (myself included) that iOL was more important for us that OTs (respectively compared to other teams at least)
                          because of Rivers’ pocket needs and limitations outside of it.
                          now with Hannibal Herbert (yay my first use!)
                          is the opposite true because of how dangerous he can be outside of the pocket?
                          he can certainly play inside, and imo nothing is more valuable than a quality C (Creed is my horse round 1 currently)
                          but it’s important to support that part of his game where he can buy time getting to the edges.
                          So while all positions are important, do we prioritize getting a solid OT vs a solid C/G?
                          .005 Brock Bowers, TE/HB/SR Georgia
                          .037 Braden Fiske, DT Florida St.
                          .069 Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
                          .105 Brenden Rice, WR USC
                          .110 Mason McCormick, OG/OC S. Dakota St.
                          .140 Zak Zinter, OG Michigan
                          .181 Nehemiah Pritchett, CB Auburn
                          .225 Ainias Smith, WR Texas A&M
                          .253 Carson Steele, RB UCLA

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