POLL: Who Should Be The Chargers' Next Head Coach?

[gzubeck]

If we give Telesco his man crush in Kelley we better be ready to move off both if it fails in a few years.
even if Telesco didn’t pick mccoy or lynn.

I want Herbert and Bosa there for the interviews. If those two are on board then the rest of the team mates will be on board as well. How much worse can it be when we have such a disorganized mess leading the team now. This is more about organizational skills vs. disorganization.

[richpjr]

Kelley has said multiple times that he has no interest in going to the NFL.

[gzubeck]

Kelley has said multiple times that he has no interest in going to the NFL.

Never say never! If the right deal comes along anyone can change their mind. But...if he's stuck with that mindset I'm not going to lose sleep over this. I think there will be at least three viable alternatives for the chargers.

:Cheers1:

[Boltjolt]

Never say never! If the right deal comes along anyone can change their mind. But...if he's stuck with that mindset I'm not going to lose sleep over this. I think there will be at least three viable alternatives for the chargers.

:Cheers1:

5 for 100 mil might make me leave a place im very comfortable being and really dont want to leave so sure, never say never. That might seem steep but you working for Dean Spanos.

[like54ninjas]

I’d still make a serious push for him to interview if nothing else.
Dude is a winner.

Kelley has said multiple times that he has no interest in going to the NFL.

[Bolt4Knob]

I’d still make a serious push for him to interview if nothing else.
Dude is a winner.

If there is one guy in the NFL that might have a shot - its Telesco. Telesco was good buddies with Brian Polian - was recruting coordinator (story is the flight attendants on hawaiian air got to know him on the thursday to saturday to and there shuttle for him to see Te'O back in the day). He is now ST coach at Notre. Plus the other scout under TT - Kevin Kelly - I think has close ties.

Again, I mocked Kelly because it has to be Telescos dream - but looking at his history - the guy has put in the time and he has been successful. I am past the mocking part and he has moved pretty high up on my list. If Telesco is still making the pick - I think Kelly has a pretty good chance. Kelly also knows most of the players on the roster as he recruited so damn many of them like Bosa, Derwin James, probably even Feeney perhaps and the other half played for him (kidding)

Make him VP and HC like Pete Carroll - TElesco stays as GM

[ghost]

He don't sound worried predicting still winning the West yearly. Reid still calls the plays.

Let's be optimistic for a moment, If John Spanos can hit on a rookie QB, stands to reason he could hit on a HC in 2021. Two months from today and two 3rd Round Draft picks is what it will take.

Chargers v. Chiefs could become the best rivalry in football.

Eric Bieiniemy gets the offensive unit over 200 plays ready as OC after he receives Andy Reid's list for the offensive game-plan. Every week. That 3,200 plays without preseason or postseason preparation. It's Eric that oversees the execution of this unit, the best on the team and in the entire league.

Last January in the divisional playoff game his squad hung 51 points on the Texans.


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[Boltjolt]

Let's be optimistic for a moment, If John Spanos can hit on a rookie QB, stands to reason he could hit on a HC in 2021. Two months from today and two 3rd Round Draft picks is what it will take.

Chargers v. Chiefs could become the best rivalry in football.

Eric Bieiniemy gets the offensive unit over 200 plays ready as OC after he receives Andy Reid's list for the offensive game-plan. Every week. That 3,200 plays without preseason or postseason preparation. It's Eric that oversees the execution of this unit, the best on the team and in the entire league.

Last January in the divisional playoff game his squad hung 51 points on the Texans.


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Reid still calls the plays of the game plan.... Which he is still involved with while as you say, sending it to Erik.

Im not saying it can't happen. It might. I just think you are a little over zealous thinking this is going to happen. You have wayyy more faith in our front office than I do.

John Boy picked...
.. Or TT picked... Collaboration,.. Whatever and however it happened,....they picked the guy that was left. Thank Miami for fucking up.
I know I do.

[Xenos]

So I mentioned earlier that it'll be a good idea that we get a more aggressive HC compared to previous iterations. But it's also important to have balance. The most important traits, outside of leadership, are situational awareness and adaptability. Here's a nice article talking about Bruce Arian's weakness. He is probably the most aggressive offensive mind in the NFL. But not always in a good way.

https://theathletic.com/2232235/2020/12/01/tom-brady-bruce-arians-bucs/

Tom Brady, Bruce Arian are wrong for each other

Michael Lombardi
10-13 minutes

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Former Los Angeles Rams and Washington coach George Allen coined the phrase “The Future is Now” in the early 1970s, when coaching in our nation’s capital. Allen then proceeded to sign older players, forgoing the future and casting away draft picks as if they were meaningless. For a moment, his plan worked until Washington ran into the undefeated Miami Dolphins in Super Bowl VII and lost 14-7. After that season, Washington never won the NFC East again until the arrival of Joe Gibbs in 1981.

When the Tampa Bay Bucs signed 43-year-old quarterback Tom Brady, they didn’t declare the future was now — they didn’t have to be so bold. They already had a 68-year-old head coach in Bruce Arians, who retired once over medical concerns, so it was clear and obvious that the Bucs were in “win now” mode. The two most important positions in any football organization are the head coach and the quarterback. In Tampa, the Glazer family, who own the Bucs, allowed their team to become old at two of the most vital spots because they thought it would help them add another Lombardi Trophy to their team facility lobby now, rather than later. What has become clear after 12 games is that the Bucs can win games against lesser opponents, they can be over .500 and make the playoffs, but they are not a Super Bowl team. Not now, and not next week.

Why? When you examine the Bucs’ numbers and talent level, they appear to be on par with the best teams in the NFL. So what is lacking? What makes them look so bad against the quality teams? Why have the Saints pounded them twice? Why have they lost three home games to playoff-caliber teams in the last four weeks? Why will they make the playoffs only as a wild card team? The answer is not as simple as Brady cannot throw the deep ball, or after 20 years in the league, he is getting confused with coverage. The Bucs are proof of what NBA Legend Michael Jordan once said: Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence win championships.

The Bucs’ problems start with the offense and the philosophical differences between Arians and Brady. The teamwork between the two is not intentionally lacking. Yet their view of how to win games week after week does differ significantly. Those differences lie in moving the ball, winning games, and, most importantly, playing complementary football in all three phases to give the team the best chance to win the game on that specific Sunday against that specific opponent. Brady learned winning football on a week to week basis. His philosophical education of the game started each week with one question: What must we do this week to give us the best chance to win the game this Sunday? And those answers varied from running it 50 times to passing every down. The offense was always adjusted based on the weakness of the defense.

Whereas Arians’ philosophy centers on his offense, his quest for big plays, striking down the field, and leaving the defense and special teams alone as they operate independently toward the ultimate goal. Bruce is not changing what he does — he will alter the plays, alter the routes, but he is looking to make big plays down the field and attack. His call sheet is set up to find biscuits as the reward for throwing it down the field and if sacks or interceptions occur, then the next series, Arians will double down on looking for more big plays.

The best example of this vast difference occurred last Monday night against the Rams. The Bucs had the ball at their 41-yard line, with slightly over two minutes left in the first half, with the game tied at 14. The Bucs faced a third-and-5, on which Brady completed a short pass to Antonio Brown for the first down and the two-minute warning. The Bucs had the ball at midfield, seemingly in control of the half. Coming out of the two-minute warning, Brady philosophically knows he has two objectives. The first would be to score either a touchdown or a field goal. And the second is to not allow the Rams to get the ball back with much time, as they would get the ball to start the second half. Brady has been schooled over the last 19 years on the importance of winning the middle eight (the last four minutes of the first half and first four of the second half).

Each call after the two-minute warning is critical to playing complementary football. However, not all coaches take the clock into account with their end of the half planning and rely on their defense to stop their opponent. Arians, at this point, had one objective: he wanted to score, and he figured his defense would prevent the Rams from scoring. Arians’ belief is classic football thinking and it works—at times. Brady would want to run the ball, get the clock moving, take his time, not be in two-minute or hurry-up offense, because he knows he has plenty of time to put the ball in the end zone. He wants the clock to start, to force the Rams to decide how they want to proceed, then take the play clock as far down as he can and run another control pass to continue moving the clock. Once the first down is gained and the game clock goes under one minute, Brady begins his two-minute “hurry the hell up” offense.

Arians called for a deep pass along the right sideline (remember, no risk, no biscuit), which fell incomplete and stopped the clock, thus giving the Rams another free timeout. The next play, Brady threw a one-yard pass, which got the clock moving, and then on third-and-7 threw another incompletion, which gave the Rams their second free timeout before the Bucs had to punt. The Rams got the ball back with one minute on the clock and two timeouts. They went 61 yards in that minute and kicked a field goal to go up at the half, 17-14. No big deal, right? Wrong: a huge deal. The Bucs lost the game by three, and because of their indifference to the middle eight, they allowed those preventable three points. After the game, the discussion centered on Brady’s confusion with coverage, lack of great deep ball accuracy, and wide open receivers in the passing game. No one viewed the end of the half debacle as an actual debacle, except those who understood the essence of complementary football.

And there lies the philosophical problem between Arians and Brady. Both men have been successful, both men have their way of operating, yet both are different in their approach to the game plan, how to call a game and how all three facets of the team intersect with one another. When Brady signed in Tampa, Arians made it abundantly clear he was not changing his offense. After all, he is the quarterback whisperer, or so his book says so; therefore, why would he ever consider changing at the tender age of 68? He is in his last coaching job; why change now?

And Brady, at the age of 43, is not able to change either. He has never been the best deep-ball thrower, as that is not his game. His game is being quick with the ball, being in the right play, the right protection, carving up defenses, and controlling the ball. Brady is all about winning on first down, gaining positive yards, and this year the Bucs rank 30^th overall in first down efficiency. It’s hard to be great on first down when you are always looking for a big play. Brady and Arians are not a match — neither is right or wrong; they are just wrong together.




Albert Einstein once said, “I never think of the future; it comes soon enough.” And the future for the Bucs is coming sooner, rather than later. The Glazer family must make a decision. They cannot rely on general manager Jason Licht for advice, as I am sure Licht believes that over time the partnership between Brady and Arians will pay dividends. Licht is too close to both parties. He talked Arians out of retirement to take the Bucs job, and he signed Brady. He passionately wants their partnership to work, but because he doesn’t truly understand Brady and how he approaches football, time and slight compromise will never be enough to bridge the gap.

The Bucs have an easy schedule to finish out the year, and they have enough talent on both sides of the ball that they could very well make a run in the playoffs. But we all know Arians is not about compromise, nor is Brady at age 43 best suited to play outside his comfort zone. The plan was for the Glazers to win a Super Bowl now, and if it doesn’t happen this year, neither Brady nor Arians offer any sustainable long-term franchise solutions, nor do they philosophically understand the game the same way. The Glazers must decide their future alone. If this partnership isn’t sustainable, what move might put the Bucs in the best position to draft and sign the young players who will help them win in the future? Do they continue with a 68-year-old coach and forgo a $25 million dollar investment in Brady next season? Or do they remove Arians, costing them significant money (although not $25 million), and hire a Brady-friendly coach for next year, with the emphasis on finding his eventual replacement?

No one was worried about the future when Brady signed or when Arians was talked out of the television booth to return to the sideline. Now, after 12 games, someone needs to think of the future and plan with a long-term lens. The number one job of any NFL owner is to exhibit common sense, which is not often common for many owners. And common sense tells us in this situation that being old at the two most important positions is never good.

Some may say the future is now for the Bucs, but in terms of a long-term view of sustained success, 2022 is ultimately what will matter most for the franchise. The Glazers must plan today for tomorrow and ask themselves one hard question: What move could we make that best allows us to win in 2022? And when they find the answer to that question, once the season ends for 2020, the Bucs, with the Glazers’ blessing, need to make those specific moves. They cannot view 2021 as their next chance to win a title because 2020 has already proven one thing: Under this current setup, with an old coach and an old quarterback holding tight onto different philosophical approaches, the Bucs will not be adding that trophy to the lobby.

[powderblueboy]

Bieniemy did a lot of shit in his college days and early NFL days with the Chargers. Is anyone worried about that?

[beachcomber]

be interesting to see where Joe Brady chooses to go.... he could stay loyal and work w/Bridgewater, and maybe he likes Trey Lance or someone else in the draft that he feels is worth sticking around Carolina for.... still working under Matt Rhule, or....

does he take a shot w/Trevor Lawrence in NY ?? or does he see something in Justin Herbert here in LA ??

would he leave the East Coast for out West ?? instead of the talk of the town, he might be the talk of the League, if he can share the spotlight here in LA w/McVay ??

heard Trevor Lawrence is very Christian.... is that a factor for Brady @all, or does he prefer the low key demeanor of Herbert ??

will Justin be disappointed if we don't get Josh McDaniels to come to LA ??

does Brady think/know he's ready.... even @31 ?? does he want a team to call his own ??

if I read correctly, he was interviewed and hired the day after the Championship game.... are the Spanos gonna drag their feet/knuckles in firing AL.... are they gonna need some time to think about things ??

opportunity knocks.... hopefully somebody will make that call, and sooner than later.

[jamrock]

Bienemy is too short.