Brandon Staley, Former Rams DC - New Chargers Head Coach

[gzubeck]

TT hired the last two HCs. Dean Spanos announced that he would be fully involved in the decision that produced Staley. It definitely feels different.
I see no reason to downgrade the Staley choice due to some level of TT involvement. At this time.
However he will be available to serve as the burnt offering if Staley proves to be an incompetent amateur as HC.

I'm going with Staley as a young Tiger Cub waiting to grow up....Lynn was the incompetent amateur HC.

[AK47]

I'm going with Staley as a young Tiger Cub waiting to grow up....Lynn was the incompetent amateur HC.

I think Staley blew them (TT and spanos crew) away so much that they were like...umm this dude has way smarter football IQ than us. Our input is just let him do it (hire assistants/coaches).

Its like the Chargers were looking for a premium checkers player, got a freaking Bobby Fischer by accident, all the while having a fresh new Queen. What do you mean horses can make "L-shaped" moves!!!!!

[CivilBolt]

I think Staley blew them (TT and spanos crew) away so much that they were like...umm this dude has way smarter football IQ than us. Our input is just let him do it (hire assistants/coaches).

Its like the Chargers were looking for a premium checkers player, got a freaking Bobby Fischer by accident, all the while having a fresh new Queen. What do you mean horses can make "L-shaped" moves!!!!!

And in doing so, jump over other chess pieces?!?!

[RTPbolt]

TT hired the two previous coaches right? I am of the opinion that he should not be given a pass more often than not when overall the Chargers have not been as successful as anyone of us would like. Again, unless I am missing something, which I will certainly apologize for.. looking back, TT made some questionable hires that should put more into question his abilities as a GM as well.

With all that said, TT has made some really nice moves also with the drafting of Bosa and Herbert, which for the most part were not popular at the time. Also, Heyward was one of the better FA signs of the past decade in my opinion considering how cheap at the time and the overall value he has brought to the Chargers! TT should at least feel his seat a warming.. although I am hopeful that he has finally hired the right coach and he will put together an all important OL unit to be consistently solid for the next decade or so.

Absolutely TT hired the coaches and influenced the other coach hires too. The difficult part is you judge these people by personality, past performance of a team (they are 1 coach and dont really represent the entire team), what others say and football passion/intelligence....and probably other factors. You hire and hope and support for the best result, that they do what they think they can do. There are so many variables in players, injuries, covid, and so on that affect performance so its difficult to pin performance on the coach alone....but they tend to be the scapegoat. I've hire people where the way I judge them they would fit and learn themselves into the role and culture...im far more on personality based and have people that others said no to that ended up being top performers....they trained into the job and learned what they needed to combine to be great employees. That said any person can have shit go wrong and not have things in their control and results don't reflect the job they did. Hiring at that level is tough. The GM and HC has to bear the brunt of every little potential detail in running a team...its very different in responsibility. Sometimes they might walk into a situation and shit just goes right and they get glowing praise and vice versa.

To me TT has got to give these guys time but also hold them accountable. What looked good on paper for Lynn just didn't convert to results and in game management. Lynn was learning on the job and just didn't get it done. Still love the man for what he stands for but this gamble didn't work. I wish him luck. Mccoy had the resume but really lacked the people management level skills....probably not HC material in my book. Staley may not be a polished HC yet but he's certainly got the passion and X/O's mentality that has shown well in the Payton and McVay type coaches. He's going to take time to build this team and get all components working....Lots to fix/adjust but I have high hopes....7-9 isn't a bad club to take over and it was D and ST that were the trouble spots and he's definitely D focused so lets hope TT has this one finally managed well. Get it right and he's here for decades. Lets hope!

[BoltUp InLA]

Absolutely TT hired the coaches and influenced the other coach hires too. The difficult part is you judge these people by personality, past performance of a team (they are 1 coach and dont really represent the entire team), what others say and football passion/intelligence....and probably other factors. You hire and hope and support for the best result, that they do what they think they can do. There are so many variables in players, injuries, covid, and so on that affect performance so its difficult to pin performance on the coach alone....but they tend to be the scapegoat. I've hire people where the way I judge them they would fit and learn themselves into the role and culture...im far more on personality based and have people that others said no to that ended up being top performers....they trained into the job and learned what they needed to combine to be great employees. That said any person can have shit go wrong and not have things in their control and results don't reflect the job they did. Hiring at that level is tough. The GM and HC has to bear the brunt of every little potential detail in running a team...its very different in responsibility. Sometimes they might walk into a situation and shit just goes right and they get glowing praise and vice versa.

To me TT has got to give these guys time but also hold them accountable. What looked good on paper for Lynn just didn't convert to results and in game management. Lynn was learning on the job and just didn't get it done. Still love the man for what he stands for but this gamble didn't work. I wish him luck. Mccoy had the resume but really lacked the people management level skills....probably not HC material in my book. Staley may not be a polished HC yet but he's certainly got the passion and X/O's mentality that has shown well in the Payton and McVay type coaches. He's going to take time to build this team and get all components working....Lots to fix/adjust but I have high hopes....7-9 isn't a bad club to take over and it was D and ST that were the trouble spots and he's definitely D focused so lets hope TT has this one finally managed well. Get it right and he's here for decades. Lets hope!

TT needs to be held accountable also. He needs to be held accountable for the coaches he hires. Lots of excuses and some are legit, but at the end of the day the more successful organizations hold everyone accountable, including, and I might even argue, especially at the executive level, then all the way down to each individual player. I am not sure if I am seeing that..

I will give TT the benefit of doubt right now, but how many coaches will he be around to both hire and fire? Three? Four maybe? I think there is a fundamental difference in our philosophy here, and that’s OK.. There are things I like about TT, but there are some lingering issues also that has me concerned..

Here is to hoping for the best Chargers years / era yet!!

[Boltgang74]

Agreed.TT needs to have a very strong offseason this year unlike last season or we need to go get a new GM.Simple,no more settling for good enough.That wont and hasnt got us even one trophy yet.

[ghost]

One point I want to stress with Coach Staley is the emphasis he puts on getting to know the players first, then football. Brandon calls it aptly 'a rich player's perspective.'



To wit: RB Rocky Bleier was discussing his tour of duty in Vietnam with a reporter. A 16th-round draft choice by the Steelers in 1968 as a halfback out of Notre Dame, Bleier also was drafted by the U.S. Army in 1969. Eventually shipped overseas, Bleier was wounded in combat during the Vietnam War.

The reporter asked Rocky if he ever had any conversations about his war experience with Coach Chuck Noll.

Rocky replied: 'I never had a conversation with Coach Noll.'

[sonorajim]

I'm going with Staley as a young Tiger Cub waiting to grow up....Lynn was the incompetent amateur HC.

Yeah. Nice guy but in over his head.

[Heatmiser]

One point I want to stress with Coach Staley is the emphasis he puts on getting to know the players first, then football. Brandon calls it aptly 'a rich player's perspective.'



To wit: RB Rocky Bleier was discussing his tour of duty in Vietnam with a reporter. A 16th-round draft choice by the Steelers in 1968 as a halfback out of Notre Dame, Bleier also was drafted by the U.S. Army in 1969. Eventually shipped overseas, Bleier was wounded in combat during the Vietnam War.

The reporter asked Rocky if he ever had any conversations about his war experience with Coach Chuck Noll.

Rocky replied: 'I never had a conversation with Coach Noll.'

There's a great book about Bleier called Fighting Back..I highly recommend it to all who have not read it. Bleier had a signficant chunk of his leg blown off by a land mine and came back to be a 1000 yd rusher. Great man and was a great player.

TG

[ghost]

My buddy is a Dayton grad, same class as ESPN's Dan Patrick, and he hooked on with the Bengals being a videographer shooting Bengals camp and games.

Ohio is the cradle of coaches, fair statement?

[ghost]

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Proof Gus Bradley couldn't/didn't adjust at halftime.

this could be the most important hire in Chargers history.

- Final summation

[powderblueboy]

One point I want to stress with Coach Staley is the emphasis he puts on getting to know the players first, then football. Brandon calls it aptly 'a rich player's perspective.'
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"What people don't realize about the NFL is that it is a people business." - Marty Schottenheimer