Mr. Von Miller - Any Interest

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  • SuperCharged
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    Mr. Von Miller - Any Interest

    Just curious if the price was right think we could squeeze a couple of seasons out of him? Looking like he won't be back in Denver.
  • FoutsFan
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    #2
    Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post
    Just curious if the price was right think we could squeeze a couple of seasons out of him? Looking like he won't be back in Denver.
    I would take him in a heartbeat. Use him as a pass rushing specialist to limit his plays and keep him fresh.

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    • powderblueboy
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      #3
      If they were one pass rusher away - yes!

      he will cost more than Bosa.

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      • Velo
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        #4
        What position would he play?

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        • Maniaque 6
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          #5
          I think Miller can take the Ingram spot anytime.
          At a lower price.

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          • Steve
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            #6
            IN the 43 you could either play Miller at weak DE in place of Ingram (with Bosa continuing to play SDE) or play him at SAM OLB, and then move him over to play DE on passing downs.

            If we switch to a 34, then Bosa would line up like a 43 DE (like JJ watt or Bruce Smith) and Miller would be the other edge rusher.

            There are lots of schemes that can pull it off, so that is not much of an issue.

            The bigger issue is that you would be spending a lot of salary cap space on the edge rushers, and we would still need to find depth. Unlike Ingram, Miller cannot line up inside (except as an occasional change of pace).

            As far as how much he would cost, it depends on how we would get him. If he is cut by Denver, then he is a somewhat reasonable $17 mill per year, since we Denver would eat the bonus. But if we have to sign him to a new deal, he is still young enough he will command a high price. I don't think it will be Bosa money, but it would still be close-ish, so an average of $20 mill + per year for several years.

            And a lot depends on how much wear and tear he has. Plenty of pass rushers stay effective into their mid 30's, giving Miller some years to go (3 maybe). Smaller OLB bodies give out to the pounding of being beaten up by 330lb OT.

            Miller whole game is set up by his speed rush, so once that starts to go, he is a lot easier to handle than a guy like Bosa (or Ingram), so there is an element of risk. But if he can keep his speed, then he has a couple more years of frustrating OT, although like most players, it will probably take him half of next season before he is back to full speed from this season's injury.

            These days, college pass rushers are getting a ton more reps and much better coaching then they did years even a few years ago. A rookie might not get a ton of sacks, but they can often be about a step short, and get a ton of pressures, and will cost a ton less, even if they are a very high draft pick.

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            • Heatmiser
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              #7
              I heard he would go to Cleveland if he left Denver. THey have the bucks and he could bookend with another former Aggie in Garret.

              TG
              Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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              • Bolt4Knob
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                #8
                Hard pass for two reasons
                cost and age

                Telesco needs to find more Casey Haywards. Players that are undervalued that with new scheme and coaching can excel. The NFL is about players in their mid to late 20's - not early 30.s

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                • jaguarmanftype
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                  #9
                  I'm sure if Staley is hired, he'd lobby to bring him in since he just coached him last year under Fangio. I'm pretty sure we can squeeze several years out of him, but he probably needs to be motivated with a good team around him that isn't dysfunctional or in a rebuilding stage which thankfully (or presumably) isn't us.

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                  • richpjr
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
                    Hard pass for two reasons
                    cost and age

                    Telesco needs to find more Casey Haywards. Players that are undervalued that with new scheme and coaching can excel. The NFL is about players in their mid to late 20's - not early 30.s
                    This would be a smarter approach. Miller in his prime was a devastating pass rusher (as we saw first hand) but with his age and especially coming off an injury, makes him an expensive gamble. With so many teams in cap trouble, I expect there will be a number of players like Hayward available to fill roster holes and we have the cap space to take advantage of it.

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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                      This would be a smarter approach. Miller in his prime was a devastating pass rusher (as we saw first hand) but with his age and especially coming off an injury, makes him an expensive gamble. With so many teams in cap trouble, I expect there will be a number of players like Hayward available to fill roster holes and we have the cap space to take advantage of it.
                      Following the NFL - I have learned that Free AGency is fools gold at times. Should be used to augment but not build your roster. I know analytics is big these days - I wonder if anybody has "analyzed" free agency and that sweet spot for contracts. Meaning - value for the dollars. Forget the name - focus on value. Find the players each free agency that provide the biggest bang, using PFF or a consistent algorithm and try to pay players in that range. And one thing in the NFL - if you are playing too many snaps of players over 30 - thats not good

                      The Rams - well Weddle retired and Clay Matthjews was released -they got much younger this year. YOunger usually means faster and less injury prone. Defense was best in the league.

                      One of the best Chargers offseasons was Goff, Foley and Godfrey. Foley before the shooting just needed consistent snaps. Thats what I want Telesco to focus on - value in players to fill some holes before the draft.

                      So Von Miller would get Adam Schefter sending out tweets and players on the team he signs with happy - but it could be fools gold. When there might be a younger less known player that is better at this stage of their career. Those are the guys TT needs to bleeping find!

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                      • ghost
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                        #12
                        Don't read the texts. Don't do it. I did, and I wish that I hadn't. Just say NO to Von Miller and move along.

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