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Samuel is a really good CB. Sharp and instinctive as well as fast and bursty. Taking other CBs ahead of him because they were a thumbnail taller or a fart faster was a fortunate mistake by other teams.
Asante Samuel Jr. carries the name of a former All-Pro corner but is trying to carve his own path at the same position in the NFL. The prospect out of Florid...
Asante Samuel Jr. carries the name of a former All-Pro corner but is trying to carve his own path at the same position in the NFL. The prospect out of Florida State joins Patrick Peterson and Bryant McFadden to discuss that path. Asante describes what it was like having a dad in the league and how playing high school at St. Thomas Aquinas prepared him for college at FSU. We also learn in what areas he's trying to improve his game as Pat and BMac dish out more defensive back tips. Samuel Jr. breaks down his draft expectations and the teams he has been getting a good vibe from before finishing with Superlatives!
I really love this pick. And I think the plan should be to primarily play him outside. Slot CBs are generally easier to find. If he can play both, at him at the position harder to find starting cover talent.
Do you guys see Samuel starting outside or at the nickel spot?
Outside. People knock his size but he’s the same height and about 10 lbs lighter than Jaire Alexander who is one of the best doing it right now. Samuel and Davis outside, Harris inside, Adderley and James over the top. That is a ridiculous amount of flexibility and playmaking in the defensive backfield.
Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasureView Post
Outside. People knock his size but he’s the same height and about 10 lbs lighter than Jaire Alexander who is one of the best doing it right now. Samuel and Davis outside, Harris inside, Adderley and James over the top. That is a ridiculous amount of flexibility and playmaking in the defensive backfield.
Plus Staley is supposed to be a defensive genius, so things are looking up. Is edge opposite Bosa an issue or are you guys comfortable there?
Plus Staley is supposed to be a defensive genius, so things are looking up. Is edge opposite Bosa an issue or are you guys comfortable there?
No consistent force opposite Bosa at this time but lots of options with Nwosu, Egbule, Fackrell, and now Rumph. Tillery may also be an option there depending on how Staley wants to use him. I don’t feel great about the position personally but there are enough options that rotating them all should at least give us fresh bodies to throw at teams in the 4th quarter and get some results. Edge and interior DL could very well be our emphasis for early in the draft next year.
Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasureView Post
No consistent force opposite Bosa at this time but lots of options with Nwosu, Egbule, Fackrell, and now Rumph. Tillery may also be an option there depending on how Staley wants to use him. I don’t feel great about the position personally but there are enough options that rotating them all should at least give us fresh bodies to throw at teams in the 4th quarter and get some results. Edge and interior DL could very well be our emphasis for early in the draft next year.
Staley has been pretty clear that Tillery will be playing on the inside and used as a matchup player to attack gaps. I think you said the only time he would consider playing him on the outside is if they had to put a big d line in versus a run heavy team. He seems pretty high on Nwosu. This is a very different style of defense than what Bradley ran here, so let's see them figure out how they want to utilize their chess pieces to attack opposing offenses. I will say one thing I don't think it's possible to have worse in game adjustments and what we've witnessed in the past.
Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasureView Post
Outside. People knock his size but he’s the same height and about 10 lbs lighter than Jaire Alexander who is one of the best doing it right now. Samuel and Davis outside, Harris inside, Adderley and James over the top. That is a ridiculous amount of flexibility and playmaking in the defensive backfield.
I am actually scared how good this backfield can be so much talent.
Staley has been pretty clear that Tillery will be playing on the inside and used as a matchup player to attack gaps. I think you said the only time he would consider playing him on the outside is if they had to put a big d line in versus a run heavy team. He seems pretty high on Nwosu. This is a very different style of defense than what Bradley ran here, so let's see them figure out how they want to utilize their chess pieces to attack opposing offenses. I will say one thing I don't think it's possible to have worse in game adjustments and what we've witnessed in the past.
34 DE have to play inside and outside, so Tillery will need to do some of both. But there is a reason that when you are scouting for 34 DE, you look at mostly guys who are DT. Especially if they call Bosa a DE, then the other DE will have to line up inside, with the OLB opposite Bosa. IT is really the same position he has been playing. The 3 technique DT spot developed when 34 DE were moved inside when 34 teams moved to the 43.
As far as Samuel goes, if you believe his 40 time is 4.45, the people who believe in 40 times telling you how fast a player is, then it is on the slowish side for a outside CB. Even 4.38 is not super fast. How many times did Samuel have guys running past him in college. FSU is not the program it was, but they still play a decent schedule, and it is not like track fast WR were blowing past him right and left. Samuel plays with technique and knows how to position himself. He is more than fast enough unless he forgets all his technique on the way to LA. The big thing a CB needs to do is be able to read and react to the WR routes as they are running. Samuel is pretty good at that. He doesn't let a lot of space generate between him and his guy, and more important, he does that while keeping his position on the WR, cutting off a lot of route options and maintaining control on his guy.
The big thing is that with this secondary, we have 3 CB who can all play press man to man, off man to man and zone (Samuel is kinda weak there ...). Staley's D relies a lot of hiding the called D by lining up guys and asking them to show one thing and then do another. All 3 CB can do that. We have a good foundation for installing the split secondary coverages.
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