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Get Mike Williams Signed To a New Contract Now
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Originally posted by 21&500 View PostI hear you boltjolt, but we need more than "set at WR"
arms race in AFCW
Herbert is not a qb that will rely on a dominant run game and/or awesome tight end like over half the top 15 qbs do
we have a chance to be truly explosive with Herbert, as in, 5 wr sets ala New England 2007 record setting explosive
This offense will give us a chance in any game the defense doesn't show up or is plain banged up
WR is akin to OL imo because if someone is open, Herbert will find him and deliver on time
it's almost like cheating
Again, a very New England approach haha
The 2007 Pats had a good defense.
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Originally posted by RollingThunder View PostI really like MW's metrics and some of his games are awesome but he just seems too inconsistent from game to game. I'm on the fence on this.
Unless you want to let Williams walk and replace him with a stud WR free agent, I say pay the man.
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Gotta pay Williams. He will want the long term deal. So the threat of the franchise tag should be enough to get the deal done. He’s got the chemistry with Herbert, so he’s probably worth more to us than another team. I liked what I saw from Palmer down the stretch. I look at Palmer and see a guy who is more likely to replace KA in a couple years.
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Originally posted by Riverwalk View PostPalmer can’t hold Williams jock and a draft pick could end up a bust.
Joshua Palmer's rookie season: 33 rec 353 yds 4 TDs
Mike Williams rookie season: 11 rec 95 yds 0 TDs
MW is the one who looked like a bust after his rookie season.
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Originally posted by Velo View Post
Seriously?
Joshua Palmer's rookie season: 33 rec 353 yds 4 TDs
Mike Williams rookie season: 11 rec 95 yds 0 TDs
MW is the one who looked like a bust after his rookie season.
And doesn't anybody but me like Allen Robinson (Chicago Bears) if we can't re-sign MW?
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Originally posted by Velo View Post
Seriously?
Joshua Palmer's rookie season: 33 rec 353 yds 4 TDs
Mike Williams rookie season: 11 rec 95 yds 0 TDs
MW is the one who looked like a bust after his rookie season.
Palmer is not a bust, but he is also nothing special as a WR. He has no elite traits to offer unlike Williams, who has a big body and is among the best at making contested catches.
What I have read and heard strongly suggests that Palmer has a great work ethic, but a player cannot develop abilities that he just does not have. We need to accept that Palmer is a career reserve. On his best day, he will never be capable of fully replacing Williams.
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Originally posted by 21&500 View PostI hear you boltjolt, but we need more than "set at WR"
arms race in AFCW
Herbert is not a qb that will rely on a dominant run game and/or awesome tight end like over half the top 15 qbs do
we have a chance to be truly explosive with Herbert, as in, 5 wr sets ala New England 2007 record setting explosive
This offense will give us a chance in any game the defense doesn't show up or is plain banged up
WR is akin to OL imo because if someone is open, Herbert will find him and deliver on time
it's almost like cheating
Again, a very New England approach haha
Our offense is good enough,our defense is horseshit
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
I'm amazed everybody would rather just prop up the offense and don't give a shit about the defense.
Our offense is good enough,our defense is horseshit
But I also think that we should not miss our opportunity to become the best offense in the league, which is well within our ability with Herbert as our QB.
We should be able to improve on both sides of the ball and at punter as well.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
I'm amazed everybody would rather just prop up the offense and don't give a shit about the defense.
Our offense is good enough,our defense is horseshit
just think we can also have an elite WR corp
At least be opportunistic if thats the way the draft falls
My point is that elite WRs can be as valuable as elite OL considering Herbert's ability to deliverGimmie Bower Power!!
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Originally posted by Velo View Post
Seriously?
Joshua Palmer's rookie season: 33 rec 353 yds 4 TDs
Mike Williams rookie season: 11 rec 95 yds 0 TDs
MW is the one who looked like a bust after his rookie season.
Fortunately it isn't an OR question. It is an AND question. Which combination of receivers will help the Chargers win the most games in 2022? Allen, Palmer, Guyton, (Ekeler), and ...?
I know some want Davante Adams, but if he makes it to Free Agency, we would have to compete with all other teams for his services while simultaneously seeking the services of players at other positions of need (DT, Edge, RT, CB, IOL, etc). To be truthful, I don't think we would have much of a chance of signing him anyway. Adams is going to stay in GB or go wherever Rodgers goes.
Until free agency begins in mid-March, we have exclusive negotiating rights with Mike Williams. At this exact moment we could be (and I hope we are) negotiating without competition and without distraction. We could give Big Mike the contract he deserves for the services we desperately need and then, in March, focus on OTHER needs without worrying about the WR position.
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