Should We Stop Going For It On 4th Down?

[jubei]

IMO it was NOT a bad call. we had NO momentum so not making it woulda done anything to our momentum. and the D wasnt stopping ravens anyways...which they ended up giving up only a fg IIRC that time. I was totally behind that call. Make the play and it might ignite something that was only embers.

[21&500]

99 problems but this ain't one.

[powderblueboy]

The greater problem is the D getting run over again.
If they made it they still would have gotten blown out.

It is not a good sign that a coach feels compelled to make these decisions.

[equivocation]

No.

[Formula 21]

I'd say its time to start running better first down plays.

[Attack]

Since we were behind by a mile, I didn't mind the call...just calling Palmer's number seemed a poor choice...KA, Parham, Ekkie or Cook would have been better...Palmer is still a rook and tough for a raw rook going up against a stout defense the Ravens have...

I was ok with that 4th and 1 (?) pass to the left sideline to Palmer that went incomplete. Who knows if Herbo threw a bad pass or if Palmer ran a wrong route. Palmer was open. I didn't mind that Herbo threw to him. It shows that Herbo trusts Palmer.

[Topcat]

Look. It was a bad game. I was expecting one with a new coach and system etc. Sooner or later. Mr. Staley meet Mr. Harbaugh. Learn something and stop yapping so much. Your team is soft and thats why the Ravens whipped us plain and simple.

What is your inspiration message for that? We are still tied for first. Its a long season. We can win this division. But we need to get more physical by playoff time. I saw the hero number 33 standing around on a lot of tackles. WTF...

Yep...on one touchdown, Derwin let Anderson cross right in front of him unchallenged for the catch...and yes, Derwin was mostly standing around on that play...

[Topcat]

The call today...on our own 20...in the beginning of the third quarter...I have never seen anything like that....I can see it at the end of the game in desperation time, or when we are out of field goal range but past the 50...and our kicker is suspect....but not on your own 20. It borders on insanity. Especially with the way the Ravens defense had been playing. Why would the Raven defense be any less effective on a 4th down? We got very lucky with a field goal on that one. Seriously....the honeymoon is over...Telesco needs to have a talk with the coach.

I no longer think Staley is almost perfect. He has a flaw.

Since we were behind by a mile, I didn't mind the call...just calling Palmer's number seemed a poor choice...KA, Parham, Ekkie or Cook would have been better...Palmer is still a rook and tough for a raw rook going up against a stout defense the Ravens have...

[Xenos]

Look. It was a bad game. I was expecting one with a new coach and system etc. Sooner or later. Mr. Staley meet Mr. Harbaugh. Learn something and stop yapping so much. Your team is soft and thats why the Ravens whipped us plain and simple.

What is your inspiration message for that? We are still tied for first. Its a long season. We can win this division. But we need to get more physical by playoff time. I saw the hero number 33 standing around on a lot of tackles. WTF...

First of all, what yapping are you talking about with regards to Staley? Staley hasn’t done any yapping.

Second, funny thing about Mr. Harbaugh is that he also does the 4th down thing as well regardless of field position.

https://www.thepowderblues.com/forum/forum/los-angeles-chargers-forum-nfl-forum-padres-forum/the-los-angeles-chargers-forum/1209833-coach-staley?p=1259682#post1259682

Kickers are different beasts.

Look. It was a bad game. I was expecting one with a new coach and system etc. Sooner or later. Mr. Staley meet Mr. Harbaugh. Learn something and stop yapping so much. Your team is soft and thats why the Ravens whipped us plain and simple.

What is your inspiration message for that? We are still tied for first. Its a long season. We can win this division. But we need to get more physical by playoff time. I saw the hero number 33 standing around on a lot of tackles. WTF...

[Xenos]

So Staley has no confidence in the defense. but he does in the kicker?

Kickers are different beasts.

[Xenos]

ON OUR OWN 20. And we were having no success against them. No running. Covering us like flypaper. It would not have hurt to punt and collect our thoughts. Thats fine if you are for it...but IMO that was not the situation or the time. The Ravens came to play...the Chargers were already on bye-week.

They will figure it out. I like the 4th down calls like in the KC game...but the Bolts were just not clicking today..especially Herbert....so less probability of success.

What would punting accomplish exactly besides give them the ball with more time to kill us? I get that it’s a brave new world to you but Staley isn’t gambling when he goes for it from our own 20. The numbers say that it was a better choice than punting it. We needed to get points immediately and it was better to go with Herbert than give it back to Lamar.