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Because they built a loyal fanbase thru.......winning.Superbowls cure all ailments.
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Originally posted by Xenos View Post
But do you see why your response contradicted that winning is the ONLY thing that matters? You can’t just have an arbitrary date that cuts off and have losing be okay once you get a SB. A SB earned almost 40 years ago none the less. It shouldn’t still make the Raiders relevant alone. They had to continue marketing their brand and past achievements.
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Originally posted by Velo View PostMaybe you are beginning to understand why winning is the only thing that is important in the NFL. The Raiders maintain a fan base in Los Angeles because they won a SB 40 years ago. That is the power of winning.
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Originally posted by Xenos View Post
The point is that we need more gangsta offseasons like this one from Telesco.
He delivers what HC asks for... taking under consideration last few were bottom of the league... I am so happy Staley uses TT as much as possible so our view of Bolts GM can change - at least mine warmed a lot.
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Originally posted by Xenos View PostThe Raiders maintained a fan base because of marketing despite losing and no longer being in the city. There are very few Raider fans who remember that SB.
The Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in the NFL. They've been to a record 8 Super Bowls and won 5 of them. They haven't won a SB since the 1995 season and have become somewhat of a laughing stock. But that winning legacy, even thought it was long ago, has cemented a large, loyal fan base that sticks with them, and that is why the franchise is worth to much.
The second most valuable franchise in the NFL is the New England Patriots. Why? Because of marketing? :lmao:No. Because they've been the winningest franchise this century and have a commited fan base.
The third most valuable franchise is the New York Giants. Four Super Bowl wins.
The fourth most valuable franchise is the Rams. Two SB wins.
The fifth most valuable franchise is Washington. Hard to believe isn't it? The owner is a doofus/douche and the team is a loser in this era, and it's in a small market. But they won three Super Bowls, the last one more than 30 years ago.
The sixth most valuable franchise is the 49ers. Seven SB trips, five Lombardis.
The Chargers are the 22nd most valuable franchise out 32, despite being in the 2nd largest media market in the nation. How many SB appearances? One. How many SB wins? Zero.
Maybe this will help you understand why winning isn't everything in the NFL, it's the only thing.
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Originally posted by Velo View PostYou are just plain wrong about this. The Raiders were one of the winningest franchises of that era, they won a total of three SBs from '76-83. They won the only SB in LA history (until Feb) and were one of the NFL's most successful and respected franchises back in that day. That legacy has endured. That is the power of winning a SB. That is why winning is the only thing that is important in the NFL. Let's put this in perspective:
The Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in the NFL. They've been to a record 8 Super Bowls and won 5 of them. They haven't won a SB since the 1995 season and have become somewhat of a laughing stock. But that winning legacy, even thought it was long ago, has cemented a large, loyal fan base that sticks with them, and that is why the franchise is worth to much.
The second most valuable franchise in the NFL is the New England Patriots. Why? Because of marketing? :lmao:No. Because they've been the winningest franchise this century and have a commited fan base.
The third most valuable franchise is the New York Giants. Four Super Bowl wins.
The fourth most valuable franchise is the Rams. Two SB wins.
The fifth most valuable franchise is Washington. Hard to believe isn't it? The owner is a doofus/douche and the team is a loser in this era, and it's in a small market. But they won three Super Bowls, the last one more than 30 years ago.
The sixth most valuable franchise is the 49ers. Seven SB trips, five Lombardis.
The Chargers are the 22nd most valuable franchise out 32, despite being in the 2nd largest media market in the nation. How many SB appearances? One. How many SB wins? Zero.
Maybe this will help you understand why winning isn't everything in the NFL, it's the only thing.
edit: also value doesn’t equal fan base. The Eagles did not win a SB until 2017 and yet are ranked 9th and have probably the biggest/most annoying fans in the NFL, while the SB less Texans are ranked 11th ahead of the 16th ranked Raiders. The Falcons are currently worth more than the Chiefs! And while the Rams are the 4th most valuable franchise, they have fan attendance issues like we do, though to a lesser extent.Last edited by Xenos; 05-22-2022, 03:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View PostPIT is not there ?
SBs are there
Big fans base
When I went to PIT, we were 2 Chargers fans in the autocar
Small market ?
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Regarding the video, I do not know the first thing about anime, but I absolutely loved the video. It was creative and took some hilarious digs at our opponents this year. And because there were so many different references in a single sequence, it made me want to go back and watch it multiple times, which I did. Others have too. It was very well received and widely disseminated and discussed, reinforcing the putting of the Chargers in people's minds that our offseason and that of our rivals already caused. It has helped to keep the buzz around the Chargers going this offseason.
It also creates an organizational image of a company that has its business together instead of that of "the bumbling Spanoses" and that can make a difference in the appeal of the company to others.
For a team that relocated to a place where fans historically rooted against us, lost a significant number of fans due to relocating, and that has been a de facto road team at numerous homes games, I see this video as one more step in the long term process of the rebuilding of our fan base.
I disagree with the notion that successful marketing/advertising and team winning cannot be linked. The more fans we get in the seats at our home games, the greater our home field advantage will be, or alternatively, and at a minimum, the less our home field disadvantage will be.
Tapping potentially new markets to develop fans is an outstanding marketing strategy. Developing younger fans is also a great approach as it creates the opportunity for increased length fandom, which helps the fan base to spread.
Of course, winning is often the single greatest engine for fan development, but to suggest that it is the only engine or all that matters is simply incorrect.
I disagree with the notion that the Rams "won the battle for Los Angeles". The Rams have a much greater built fan base and have had greater recent success than we have had, which has given them a leg up, but they have had the same kinds of issues with visiting crowds that we have had with other teams invading SoFi. The 49ers, for example, have essentially been the home team in recent games between those two teams.
What I see is that we have a developing fan base that continues to get larger year after year. It is not yet where we want it to be, but it is definitely heading in the right direction. And the excellence of this video is something to be celebrated.Last edited by Guest; 05-24-2022, 12:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Velo View PostMaybe you are beginning to understand why winning is the only thing that is important in the NFL. The Raiders maintain a fan base in Los Angeles because they won a SB 40 years ago. That is the power of winning.
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