Derwin James "Hold-in" - SIGNED 4 Years $76.4M

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  • Xenos
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    #25
    Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
    Also the rest of the team is watching. If Chargers don't treat their self admitted superstar heart and soul player fairly, then the rest of the guys stand no chance. I think when AJ pulled his stunt with Gates he lost a lot of respect on the team and never really got it back.

    TG
    I’m going to disagree with the Gates example. There’s a reason Gates immediately fired his agent afterwards and got the deal done with a better agent. There’s also a reason there was no drama in the third contract in 2010.

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    • chargeroo
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      #26
      Originally posted by Xenos View Post

      I’m going to disagree with the Gates example. There’s a reason Gates immediately fired his agent afterwards and got the deal done with a better agent. There’s also a reason there was no drama in the third contract in 2010.
      So I'm going to disagree with you - they lowballed AG and that was the problem. AJ was a hard-nosed GM. That was obvious.
      THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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      • jamrock
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        #27
        Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

        So I'm going to disagree with you - they lowballed AG and that was the problem. AJ was a hard-nosed GM. That was obvious.
        hard nosed cut off your nose to spite your face GM.

        disqualified Gates from game 1 of that season and we lost to Dallas when we couldn't convert in the red zone (Gates' specialty) at the end.

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        • Xenos
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          #28
          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

          hard nosed cut off your nose to spite your face GM.

          disqualified Gates from game 1 of that season and we lost to Dallas when we couldn't convert in the red zone (Gates' specialty) at the end.
          Gates’ agent disqualified him from game 1. AJ couldn’t reverse the league’s rules even if he want to. Once again, there’s a reason that his agent was fired and contracts afterwards went so smoothly.

          Edit: also why did we pass all four downs with LT as our RB?

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            #29
            Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

            So I'm going to disagree with you - they lowballed AG and that was the problem. AJ was a hard-nosed GM. That was obvious.
            There’s nothing to disagree with Roo. It’s what happened. Gates’ agent, who had no NFL background, misled him and caused him to miss the first game.

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            • chargeroo
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              #30
              Originally posted by Xenos View Post



              Edit: also why did we pass all four downs with LT as our RB?
              We did that same thing again last year in the second Chiefs game.
              THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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              • captaind
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                #31
                Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
                Also the rest of the team is watching. If Chargers don't treat their self admitted superstar heart and soul player fairly, then the rest of the guys stand no chance. I think when AJ pulled his stunt with Gates he lost a lot of respect on the team and never really got it back.

                TG
                Think that was more Jyles Tucker, but JMO.

                Derwin may have also lured some players to play for the Chargers, so there's also that. He seems to be well liked & respected by not only his teammates, but a lot of other NFL players as well.

                So TT, don't screw this up. Especially since I just won this jersey, lol.

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                • RTPbolt
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                  #32
                  DJ isnt going anywhere. Im sure he will be in soon. I prefer him staying healthy anyway…

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                  • jamrock
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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Xenos View Post

                    Gates’ agent disqualified him from game 1. AJ couldn’t reverse the league’s rules even if he want to. Once again, there’s a reason that his agent was fired and contracts afterwards went so smoothly.

                    Edit: also why did we pass all four downs with LT as our RB?
                    AJ is the one who sent a letter demanding that he report a certain day and if he didn’t he’d be on the roster exempt list. So he couldn’t reverse the NFL rules that he put in process. Cut off your nose to spite your face.


                    Chargers GM A.J. Smith said at halftime of San Diego's preseason game against St. Louis that tight end will end his holdout and sign his one-year tender.

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                    • Xenos
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                      #34
                      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                      AJ is the one who sent a letter demanding that he report a certain day and if he didn’t he’d be on the roster exempt list. So he couldn’t reverse the NFL rules that he put in process. Cut off your nose to spite your face.


                      Chargers GM A.J. Smith said at halftime of San Diego's preseason game against St. Louis that tight end will end his holdout and sign his one-year tender.
                      It was the right move though. Too bad Gates’ former agent screwed him over and had him come in one day late.

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                      • jamrock
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                        #35
                        Originally posted by Xenos View Post

                        It was the right move though. Too bad Gates’ former agent screwed him over and had him come in one day late.
                        Jesus. Just say I had it wrong. It’s not the end of the world

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                        • sonorajim
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                          #36
                          I don't remember all the details, don't really care now.
                          AJ was an A-hole.
                          Gates was a great guy as well as a HOF talent.

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