Kurt Warner talking about Herbert & Lombardi's offense

[Kellyb72601]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOyvta2woM

Good video

[Bolts&noles]

I also watched that.
It gives a good breakdown of things.
It also kinda shows how vanilla the offense is.
Iam not a huge fan of the option routes either.

[Kellyb72601]

It seems it was kinda Warner's way of criticizing the offense without criticizing the offense.

[21&500]

It seems it was kinda Warner's way of criticizing the offense without criticizing the offense.

Agreed.
He's a pro.

[Bolts&noles]

It seems it was kinda Warner's way of criticizing the offense without criticizing the offense.

Right he called it "learning lessons".
Not sure what's gonna happen with Herbert but the offense should start jelling hopefully.
Third week,10 days off.Probably in a lot better game shape.

[Guest]

What I saw was a lot of short routes run right into rolled up defenses with at least 9 guys within 7 yards of the line of scrimmage and the safeties not playing very deep either with Herbert beating tight coverage with great throws into tight windows. IMO, the routes are very poorly designed in terms of creating separation through route combination, which resulted in multiple instances in which one defender could actually provide at least some coverage on two different receivers. I saw RBs being asked to block in the middle of the line and then leak out to the sideline, guaranteeing that they would never be available as receivers, especially in the realm of Charger football where all of the receivers are running short patterns. It seems like Lombardi has no idea what clearing out an area of the field means as the combination routes failed to create space most of the time. The "everyone runs short" plays simply sucked.

On the crossing pattern on which Palmer was open on the deep pass to Williams because the defender played outside leverage and gave Palmer the inside with no help to the inside (i.e., free wide open receiver), I would simply point out that crossing patterns like that have a chance to go for TDs if Lombardi could simply make the adjustment of having Guyton and not Palmer or Allen running the crossing route. Why Lombardi repeatedly refuses to use speed to run away from coverage (see Hill, Tyreek) on deeper crossing patterns is utterly mind boggling.

I thought we could have split that two deep coverage in the medium and deep middle more than we did. I thought we could have cleared out the short area with better route combinations.

[Velo]

I didn't see Kurt criticize the offense at all. He picked out a few plays and pointed out how Herb might execute things differently, from is perspective of playing QB 12 years in the NFL and winning a championship. He does this with a lot of QBs.

[richpjr]

I didn't see Kurt criticize the offense at all. He picked out a few plays and pointed out how Herb might execute things differently, from is perspective of playing QB 12 years in the NFL and winning a championship. He does this with a lot of QBs.

There were a couple of pickup observations by the RB, but most of it was what a young QB can do better and how our RB could have run flatter routes in some cases.

[JupiterBolt]

He did a great job of explaining the concepts. He was not complimentary of #7. I certainty trust HOF QBs over mediocre lawyers playing Monday morning QBs.

[Guest]

He did a great job of explaining the concepts. He was not complimentary of #7. I certainty trust HOF QBs over mediocre lawyers playing Monday morning QBs.

Warner did not address anything that I discussed as his focus was on the QB and secondarily on how the receivers executed the play called. There was very little discussion about the quality of the play called one way or the other. Warner never reaches my discussion. He is talking about something else and there is no conflict between what he said and what I have been saying since week two of last year.

Seriously, did you even watch the video?

Also, how would you know what level of skill I have as an attorney unless you have encountered me in that realm? The simple answer is that you would not any more than I would know exactly how good or bad you are at your job.

[captaind]

Also, how would you know what level of skill I have as an attorney unless you have encountered me in that realm? The simple answer is that you would not any more than I would know exactly how good or bad you are at your job.

:whistlin::whistlin::whistlin:

[UtahBolt]

In a number of these examples, the check downs/outlets are not finishing their routes and causing too much traffic over the hash and middle of the field. Get in your route and go, either get open or clear 'em out, it's offensive football 101.

I knew the Everett play was a weak effort on his part (tired, up-tempo, etc.) but after watching this, wow, it's way worse than I thought. That may be one of the worst efforts in a professional football game I have ever seen. Gotta clean this shit up...