Chargers Waived Tillery!

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  • Boltgang74
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    Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

    I disagree, both out performed tillery in TC, but those two are UDRFAs and tillery was a first round pick, LOL.

    The D-line lost big when johnson went down but going forward from what we had after losing johnson (covington, tillery, and otito) the d-line is probably going to be deeper with gaziano and whatever two vets they bring in…
    Ya just know either TT or lil wimp shit Johnny made sure Tillery played.

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    • Riverwalk
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      Since Tillery was waived and picked up by Raiders…l

      Raiders are 1-0
      Chargers are 0-1

      hmmmmmmm

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      • Boltjolt
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        Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
        Since Tillery was waived and picked up by Raiders…l

        Raiders are 1-0
        Chargers are 0-1

        hmmmmmmm

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        • jaguarmanftype
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          Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
          Since Tillery was waived and picked up by Raiders…l

          Raiders are 1-0
          Chargers are 0-1

          hmmmmmmm
          So he's costing us games, and he's not even on the team anymore? Man, what a bust.

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          • BayAreaBoltz
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            Saw this tweet today:

            "The Chargers went 12-4 and made the playoffs in 2018. The next offseason they drafted Jerry Tillery. Since then, the Chargers never made the playoffs and were trending towards not making it again. They cut Tillery and now they’re in the playoffs. Damn​"

            Hahaha. And true.

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            • Fouts2herbert
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              Originally posted by BayAreaBoltz View Post
              Saw this tweet today:

              "The Chargers went 12-4 and made the playoffs in 2018. The next offseason they drafted Jerry Tillery. Since then, the Chargers never made the playoffs and were trending towards not making it again. They cut Tillery and now they’re in the playoffs. Damn​"

              Hahaha. And true.
              :LOL:
              "The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."​​

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              • ChargersPowderBlue
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                Originally posted by Velo View Post
                Tillery's value was as a situational pass rusher from the middle of the DL. That's about it. With Bosa and Mack on the edges, on 3rd and long, having Tillery in at DL to provide pressure from the middle, the prospect of having that was very tantalizing, and it was part of the plan going into this season, to play from ahead with the Chargers' offense expected to be off the charts, to have that devastating pass rush when teams had to play catch up. This is why they wanted to keep Tillery - he was the only IDL on the roster who could effectively rush the passer from the middle. But Staley saw him in that one role only. Tillery thought differently, that he should be a full time player. But he was delusional. He was a liability in run defense. He didn't want to face and accept that.

                I never understood Tillery as a full time DT, a run stopper, which is what you expect when you draft a DT in the first round. He's too tall (6-6) and too light (295) to be effective as a run-lane clogger. For that you want a guy who is shorter, with a low center of gravity, and a wide-ass body who can take on blocks from +300 lb OL and not be moved. Tillery is tall and lean. His center of gravity is too high and he doesn't have enough "mass in the ass" for that role.

                But pass blocking is different than run blocking. When an OL run blocks, they want to move DL off the run lane and open a hole. I explained why Tillery was not suited for that above. But when an OL pass blocks, they are stepping backward to protect their QB, not trying to move you off the line. In this situation, Tillery's body type worked to his advantage over OL. He was fairly effective as a pass rusher up the middle, and that is the only reason he was still on the roster. Too bad we never got to see Bosa and Mack rushing from the outside and Tillery pushing up the middle on third and long after the Chargers' offense built a lead. It woulda/coulda been great.
                The only good pass rusher on the interior we have now is Fox. But we need another one. To be an elite defense. Something that keeps hindering this team's defense from being better. Teams who have multiple good pass rushers at DT tend to do better. Gaziano was good at it in college, but I haven't seen that of him in his time as a pro. Fehoko isn't much of a pass rusher. Otito Ogbonnia is going to take time to develop.

                Having a DT who is good at both run stopping and pass rushing would be great. This team should try to find more players who excel in both, they keep having players who are just good at one of them. It would also help if Staley brought in a DL person who knows how to work a DL rotation. Because overworking the starters and playing them too many minutes has its effects regarding fatigue. Hence why you see d-linemen getting gassed.

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                • ChargersPowderBlue
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                  Originally posted by BayAreaBoltz View Post
                  Saw this tweet today:

                  "The Chargers went 12-4 and made the playoffs in 2018. The next offseason they drafted Jerry Tillery. Since then, the Chargers never made the playoffs and were trending towards not making it again. They cut Tillery and now they’re in the playoffs. Damn​"

                  Hahaha. And true.
                  Did that tweet consider other factors besides just hating on Tillery?

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                  • BayAreaBoltz
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                    Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

                    Did that tweet consider other factors besides just hating on Tillery?
                    Yes it did. It factored in all the Tillery love as well. And came to the same conclusion.

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                    • Velo
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                      Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

                      The only good pass rusher on the interior we have now is Fox. But we need another one. To be an elite defense. Something that keeps hindering this team's defense from being better. Teams who have multiple good pass rushers at DT tend to do better. Gaziano was good at it in college, but I haven't seen that of him in his time as a pro. Fehoko isn't much of a pass rusher. Otito Ogbonnia is going to take time to develop.

                      Having a DT who is good at both run stopping and pass rushing would be great. This team should try to find more players who excel in both, they keep having players who are just good at one of them. It would also help if Staley brought in a DL person who knows how to work a DL rotation. Because overworking the starters and playing them too many minutes has its effects regarding fatigue. Hence why you see d-linemen getting gassed.
                      Staley's defense is the most complex the Chargers have ever had, it's hard for me to look at it and say what type of player(s) it needs. But Staley knows; he went out and got his guys, and at long last his vision for the defense seems to be working.

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                      • Riverwalk
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                        I’ve never been a Tillery fan but gotta admit, as thin and injured our defensive line was when Tillery was shitcanned, I thought the timing was bad as we needed all hands on deck no matter how flawed they were.

                        In hindsight it was brilliant getting rid of him.

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                        • AK47
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                          Originally posted by Velo View Post

                          Staley's defense is the most complex the Chargers have ever had, it's hard for me to look at it and say what type of player(s) it needs. But Staley knows; he went out and got his guys, and at long last his vision for the defense seems to be working.
                          The issue was how to make it simple for his players. It took some time but we're playing faster.

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