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Originally posted by richpjr View Post
I think everyone outside of Pip's family thinks we can do better. The question is - is he the biggest liability on the team right now? IMO, that answer is no. So do we spend our first few picks on upgrading him at the expense of other holes?
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Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
I'm just not buying this "too slow to reach his landmarks" bit.
Pip ran a 5.12 40 at the combine .... that's pretty good. I've seen Pip get down the field fast enough .... not that I paid that much attention to it.
Guess who ran a 5.13 40?
Guess who doesn't care about 40-yard dash times...? Especially for OL. Remember Orlando Brown's 40...? LOL!
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Originally posted by richpjr View Post
I think everyone outside of Pip's family thinks we can do better. The question is - is he the biggest liability on the team right now? IMO, that answer is no. So do we spend our first few picks on upgrading him at the expense of other holes?
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Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
Yeah, that's my feeling too. I'd just like to see what an offense looks like with a more capable RT... it's been a long time.
My feeling is that Herbert hasn't been able to do all the things he's capable of... a lot of that falls on the protection (or lack thereof).
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Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
Yeah, that's my feeling too. I'd just like to see what an offense looks like with a more capable RT... it's been a long time.
My feeling is that Herbert hasn't been able to do all the things he's capable of... a lot of that falls on the protection (or lack thereof).
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Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post
Oh he's developed. Just not to some people's standards.
I saw Gerald Everett helping out Pipkins to block Maxx Crosby in the first Raider game last year. And other games he had help from from a TE to block an edge rusher. Pipkins has trouble with the elite edge rushers. But then, a lot of OTs do. Pipkins does a better job against mid tier edge players or below that.
TE is holding Pipkins hand as been posted. Pipkins along with other RTs is going to have trouble with elite pass rushers. That's just a fact of life. They wouldn't
be elite pass rushers otherwise. So yes on occasion Pipkins had help. But it's not we dedicated a TE or RB to help Pipkins. Plus Everett is a good pass catching
TE but not so great at blocking. In fact we had probably the worst blocking TEs in the NFL.
At any rate the bigger problem with Pipkins is his run blocking. So you want a run blocking OT, that's great go for it, just not with the #5 pick.
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Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
If you want to "run the ball better and protect the QB"... then, yeah, he's the biggest liability.
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I'm curious how many of the draft Alt or Latham or Fuaga folks were in the draft Trevor Penning camp in 2022?
I'm assuming most won't own up to it about how wrong they were as he is flat out horrible. I could imagine it's the same crowd that doesn't like Pipkins now was calling for Penning then?
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