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  • CanadianBoltFan
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    Regarding trading up....

    I think it is unlikley and expensive to trade up in round 1, But looking at the Raven way they traded up in round 2 fairly frequently, as Hortiz did last year.

    I think a trade up in round 2 is more likley, especially when you consider some of the players you would think will interest the Chargers will be gone before 55....Mason Taylor, Jayden Higgns, TreyVon Henderson etc. A trade up into the 40s I could see happening.

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    • UtahBolt
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      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
      Cuppla recent nuggets of opinion...

      Sikemma says the Chargers are one of three teams most likely to trade up.

      Jeremiah says Mason Taylor is an example of a player who might be overdrafted in round one.
      (The circumstances would be that everyone towards the top of a team's big board was gone, and drafting a high floor player, one who is likely to have a fairly solid ten year career, makes sense.)

      Jeremiah points out that his grades on his ~ #15 ranked player are very close to his ~ #60 ranked player.

      We should prepare ourselves for just about anything.

      I actually realistically think someone might trade up to @ #22 for a QB or an OT.
      I just don't see it in Taylor. When I watch his film, he just seems like your average run of the mill NFL TE. He does not create mis-match problems, is an average blocker, is not very fluid or athletic and he seems to be stiff in his routes. Again, he is not bad and I am sure will have a solid 10 year career but IMO he will only compliment an offense and not be weapon. In this draft, you are only trading up for weapons.
      I'll ride the wave...where it takes me.

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      • wu-dai clan
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        Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

        Jeremiah says that the talent at DT is an “Abyss” and it goes and goes and goes, round after round and there isn’t a huge drop off until around the 5th round.
        Im not sure taking DT high makes sense if you can get 2 in the mid rounds who are basically as good as the guy drafted in the 1st. RB and EDGE are deep too.
        Strategy is going to be key.

        You point out exactly why I pivoted from Harmon or say Grant.

        FanDuel has us picking DT @ #22, and that is where people literally put their money where their mouth is.
        We play modern Harball.

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        • Boltjolt
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          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
          Cuppla recent nuggets of opinion...

          Sikemma says the Chargers are one of three teams most likely to trade up.

          Jeremiah says Mason Taylor is an example of a player who might be overdrafted in round one.
          (The circumstances would be that everyone towards the top of a team's big board was gone, and drafting a high floor player, one who is likely to have a fairly solid ten year career, makes sense.)

          Jeremiah points out that his grades on his ~ #15 ranked player are very close to his ~ #60 ranked player.

          We should prepare ourselves for just about anything.

          I actually realistically think someone might trade up to @ #22 for a QB or an OT.
          Problem is Im pretty sure Silemma hasn't any idea what we will do. Just a PFF talking head. He watches tape gives his opinions and I respect that but to put out that.......lol

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          • Boltnut
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            Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
            Cuppla recent nuggets of opinion...

            Sikemma says the Chargers are one of three teams most likely to trade up.

            Jeremiah says Mason Taylor is an example of a player who might be overdrafted in round one.
            (The circumstances would be that everyone towards the top of a team's big board was gone, and drafting a high floor player, one who is likely to have a fairly solid ten year career, makes sense.)

            Jeremiah points out that his grades on his ~ #15 ranked player are very close to his ~ #60 ranked player.

            We should prepare ourselves for just about anything.

            I actually realistically think someone might trade up to @ #22 for a QB or an OT.
            That's what I see, too. Which means we may be destined for a "low floor" player @#22.
            Which would make it very hard to trade back, also.
            Unless, as you point out, that they are desperate for a PON...

            The other thing that you would need for a trade back partner... is a team right behind you that might want to draft that PON that #28-32 wants.
            For us, that team is the Packers @#23. So, what do they need/want...? Who might want the same thing...?

            Protect the QB
            Run the ball
            Play great defense

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            • La Costa Boy
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              I'm excited that we are a week away and I have no idea where we are headed. I am sticking with my gut for an offensive first round with TE at 70% and WR at 25%. The other 5% is for Joe to surprise me as you never know who might fall or if the phone rings.

              This is way better than when Tommy T ran things.

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              • rensoul
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                Originally posted by UtahBolt View Post

                I just don't see it in Taylor. When I watch his film, he just seems like your average run of the mill NFL TE. He does not create mis-match problems, is an average blocker, is not very fluid or athletic and he seems to be stiff in his routes. Again, he is not bad and I am sure will have a solid 10 year career but IMO he will only compliment an offense and not be weapon. In this draft, you are only trading up for weapons.
                For a late 1st or 2nd round pick that is considered a success imo.

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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                  That's what I see, too. Which means we may be destined for a "low floor" player @#22.
                  Which would make it very hard to trade back, also.
                  Unless, as you point out, that they are desperate for a PON...

                  The other thing that you would need for a trade back partner... is a team right behind you that might want to draft that PON that #28-32 wants.
                  For us, that team is the Packers @#23. So, what do they need/want...? Who might want the same thing...?
                  You make a great point,. If the draft board is pretty similar from 15 to 60 or whatever as DJ pointed out - why would a team trade up

                  That said, a team like the Bills - they might trade up because they are in full on "its time to effing win now" -- they have been knocking so its time to kick the door down

                  Granted, is that for Grant or Harmon IDL
                  Maybe Ebuka at WR

                  So if the board is truly pretty even from 20 to 60 - that would mean taking the path of "okay, we are taking position X in Round 1 as there is great depth at these other positions in Rounds 2-4"

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                    You make a great point,. If the draft board is pretty similar from 15 to 60 or whatever as DJ pointed out - why would a team trade up

                    That said, a team like the Bills - they might trade up because they are in full on "its time to effing win now" -- they have been knocking so its time to kick the door down

                    Granted, is that for Grant or Harmon IDL
                    Maybe Ebuka at WR

                    So if the board is truly pretty even from 20 to 60 - that would mean taking the path of "okay, we are taking position X in Round 1 as there is great depth at these other positions in Rounds 2-4"
                    Sometimes there's a run on particular positions, and teams quickly trade up, ie "last chance".

                    There might be a particular player a team loves and they want to jymp over another team.

                    Otherwise, as you say "good things come to those who wait, and save all their picks."
                    We play modern Harball.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                      Problem is Im pretty sure Silemma hasn't any idea what we will do. Just a PFF talking head. He watches tape gives his opinions and I respect that but to put out that.......lol
                      BJolt is rough on these pundits.
                      We play modern Harball.

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                      • Jack Burton
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                        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                        You make a great point,. If the draft board is pretty similar from 15 to 60 or whatever as DJ pointed out - why would a team trade up

                        That said, a team like the Bills - they might trade up because they are in full on "its time to effing win now" -- they have been knocking so its time to kick the door down

                        Granted, is that for Grant or Harmon IDL
                        Maybe Ebuka at WR

                        So if the board is truly pretty even from 20 to 60 - that would mean taking the path of "okay, we are taking position X in Round 1 as there is great depth at these other positions in Rounds 2-4"
                        That’s why I used them in my trade back mock.
                        They are flush with extra picks. And they are close to that roster they feel will win a SB. It’s now or never to go get that CB or DT they covet cause they simply can.
                        Last edited by Jack Burton; 04-17-2025, 08:36 AM.

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                        • Bolt4Knob
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                          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                          BJolt is rough on these pundits.
                          I think Trevor Sikkahema (sp) is pretty good

                          I like Jeremiah the best
                          McShay was okay

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