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[Chargers8491]

We sure could have used an elite TE vs the Texans. Dissley's drops cost us a first down when we had to settle for a fg and a pick 6. That was 10 points plus huge momentum swings.

They didn't need an elite TE they needed an average to above average TE that can catch. Dissly was never meant to be the #1 pass catching TE in this system. He was signed to block. The fact that he had the receptions that he did was remarkable. He was elevated because they had no one else.

Some would say Andrews is elite and he had a drop in the biggest game. It happens. An "elite" TE can and will have drops.

[electricgold]

We sure could have used an elite TE vs the Texans. Dissley's drops cost us a first down when we had to settle for a fg and a pick 6. That was 10 points plus huge momentum swings.

We needed a healthy better than average RB, a good TE and a good WR! We had Ladd and nothing else. Also the three stooges in the middle blocking for Herbert.

[Steve]

Personally I don't think drafting Warren or Loveland is an issue. They will both be long gone.

However, even if they are, is that a position that worth devoting a #1 pick on? I think Loveland can be an elite Flex TE type of player. However, we aren't going to use him like that. We want a TE to line up inline and they are going to have to do a lot of inline blocking. Loveland is not that good at that. So, we aren't going to use his best skills to their fullest and using him in a role that he is not that highly suited for. It doesn't usually bring out the best in a player. The Ravens used TE as their featured receivers and won the matchups of their TE vs LB all day long. But is it the best use of our draft credit to go after a player we won't be getting the most out of. We still have other needs.

[Bolt4Knob]

IMHO, TE is no longer the biggest need with Conklin signing. He had almost 500 yds receiving last year and that was playing on a dysfunctional Jets team. There is no reason he can't have 800-1000 yards this year. He is a very underrated TE.

I'll leave you with this, who is the #1 outside CB on the roster right now?

Still, Hart, St Juste Donte to me is better than Dissly and Conklin longer term. The Chargers didn't have a true number 1 corner last year

Herbert needs weapons. Conklin is one year - -he is a bridge. Its like saying the team doesn't need an X as they signed Mike Williams

The Chargers need play makers at RB, WR and TE

[Bolt4Knob]

We needed a healthy better than average RB, a good TE and a good WR! We had Ladd and nothing else. Also the three stooges in the middle blocking for Herbert.

Plus, Slater and Alt each had bad games.
But on paper, the Chargers have improved IOL I believe
WR - I think is a push with MW and Palmer
TE - Conklin is probably better than Hurst, won't be worse
Harris, probably better than Dobbins though different

Chargers need
RB with juice
a long term answer at TE
WR as a complement to Ladd

First four rounds of the draft, need two of the above, if not all three. If the offense scores more, had more first downs, will help the defense.

[Boltjolt]

Popper was pretty adamant that Joe Alt wasn't happening last draft... I take Popper with a grain of salt.

I agree, KA doesn't happen before the draft. If there are other proven pros at other PON's... they have probably saved that extra cap $$ for them. The draft board will tell them where to go. The actual draft picks will tell us more. They can go in a lot of different ways.

Agree. He is the beat writer and there are things they don't want him to know. He has access to people sure and he has better feel than we do but MW and Keenan I think may know if this is brewing or not more than Popper.

And if there is anything brewing with Keenan, then 1,.... we will likely carry 6 WRs and two we won't be drafting one early and likely get a development type which in this draft can be from round 3 on down.

Not like WR is stacked in this class but there are some pretty decent good ones.

[Bolt4Knob]

Agree. He is the best writer and there are things they don't want him to know. He has access to people sure and he has better feel than we do but MW and Keenan I think may know if this is brewing or not more than Popper.

And if there is anything brewing with Keenan, then 1,.... we will likely carry 6 WRs and two we won't be drafting one early and likely get a development type which in this draft can be from round 3 on down.

Not like WR is stacked in this class but there are some pretty decent good ones.

I just don't see Allen as a fit with Ladd, QJ and a TE
I get the reliabilty
I get he would be better on the boundary than QJ
But now he is more a slot guy and that is Ladds position

Again, the signing only makes sense post draft because you never know who will be there at 22. If McMillan is there at 22 but Loveland, Harmon, Hampton and Golden are gone -- to pass on TMac would kind of be stupid.

[Boltnut]

Agree. He is the best writer and there are things they don't want him to know. He has access to people sure and he has better feel than we do but MW and Keenan I think may know if this is brewing or not more than Popper.

And if there is anything brewing with Keenan, then 1,.... we will likely carry 6 WRs and two we won't be drafting one early and likely get a development type which in this draft can be from round 3 on down.

Not like WR is stacked in this class but there are some pretty decent good ones.

Yeah, that's the way I see this WR class... not great at the top... but decent players may be available in 4th/5th rounds.
Getting MW as our X-WR was a smart move... especially if health is good. If we get a good TE (1st/2nd) then our receiving options look pretty good. I expect QJ to get another year before we get anxious about the receiving corps. We'll take care of a long-term solution @RB before we get too antsy @WR. We're expected to value the running game... reportedly, it sets up the passing game.

[Chargers8491]

Still, Hart, St Juste Donte to me is better than Dissly and Conklin longer term. The Chargers didn't have a true number 1 corner last year

Herbert needs weapons. Conklin is one year - -he is a bridge. Its like saying the team doesn't need an X as they signed Mike Williams

The Chargers need play makers at RB, WR and TE

Almost half this roster is bridge players on a 1-2-year contract. They need young starters at almost every position.

I agree Herbert needs weapons, but they also need a #1 corner. IMHO, the best value is WR/CB/Edge/IDL/ and OG with pick #22. I only added OG because they are still building, and OG could very well be picked in the 1st rnd to continue building their o-line. RB for me is a wildcard because I'm not sure how Hortiz/Harbaugh value RB in the draft. They did take Vidal late but that really doesn't mean anything.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Yeah, that's the way I see this WR class... not great at the top... but decent players may be available in 4th/5th rounds.
Getting MW as our X-WR was a smart move... especially if health is good. If we get a good TE (1st/2nd) then our receiving options look pretty good. I expect QJ to get another year before we get anxious about the receiving corps. We'll take care of a long-term solution @RB before we get too antsy @WR. We're expected to value the running game... reportedly, it sets up the passing game.

That is what I have come to. Address TE and RB as the main weapons early and draft a WR later. This is not the draft for high end WRs, it s a draft full of WR2s and WR3s.

[Boltjolt]

I just don't see Allen as a fit with Ladd, QJ and a TE
I get the reliabilty
I get he would be better on the boundary than QJ
But now he is more a slot guy and that is Ladds position

Again, the signing only makes sense post draft because you never know who will be there at 22. If McMillan is there at 22 but Loveland, Harmon, Hampton and Golden are gone -- to pass on TMac would kind of be stupid.

I don't disagree. I have said I wouldn't sign him but maybe they have more plans for Ladd and it isn't Keenan that will play else where? I've no idea but if they plan on signing him after the draft or whenever it may be they have a plan for something.
I don't think Ladd is just relegated to slot duty only. All this has to be figured in with QJ and his abilities as well. Maybe they plan of packaging QJ in a trade and plan on drafting a WR and signing Keenan? 🤷

Beats me. It will make sense in a month or so.

[Boltnut]

I just don't see Allen as a fit with Ladd, QJ and a TE
I get the reliabilty
I get he would be better on the boundary than QJ
But now he is more a slot guy and that is Ladds position

Again, the signing only makes sense post draft because you never know who will be there at 22. If McMillan is there at 22 but Loveland, Harmon, Hampton and Golden are gone -- to pass on TMac would kind of be stupid.

I'm not a big T-MAC fan. Is he the X-WR we're looking for...? IMO, if MW stays healthy, T-MAC wouldn't be better than MW @X-WR... maybe not even better than QJ in his 3rd year... and wouldn't see the field as much as a 1st-rounder should. I know he's considered the best WR in this class... but I'd be more excited about an edge rusher if Jeanty, Hampton, Warren, and Loveland are gone @#22. We want to run a lot of 12-personnel... I'm not seeing WR as the PON as much as most people.