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  • wu-dai clan
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    #14725
    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

    Can I interest them in one other former TCU WR Jalen Reagor?
    Hands off Derius Davis though!
    We have numerous players in our WR room, all of who could step up in '25 in as likely a manner as QJ.

    What should register is that we drafted KLS and traded up for Gadsden over Miles Frazier.

    No one can convince me that KLS or DD are incapable of running horizontal crossers.
    Strange69...Adopted Bolt

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    • wu-dai clan
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      #14726
      Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

      Yes to all that but one or more starting WR’s is bound to be sidelined with injury and as it currently stands, QJ is needed for depth.


      I am not so sure that Keenan would not sign for vet minimum late.

      Getting his #13 back is not a problem, although many here think it is.
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      • dmac_bolt
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        #14727
        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

        The Cowboys would be paying a modest price for QJ's upside, which is greater than Jalen Tolbert 's.

        The Chargers would move on, with ample weapons, in spite of the exaggerated guesses of many TPB posters.

        I will mention again the matrix of routes that our array of weapons are proficient at, and there is now redundancy with QJ, someone that Hortiz did not draft.

        Furthermore what must be considered is the roster building strategy of Joe Hortiz.

        It remains a fact that we drafted 4 new compelling weapons.

        So which month you betting on. August or October ?
        Why wouldn’t they just ask for Reagor or Rice? TPB knows both of them are better, why won’t the cowboys? Rice has HOF potential

        I’m betting neither - best bet is 2027. 2026 if he has not improved further. You call it redundancy, Joe and I call it depth. Its the same reason Pip is here. We do have a roster building strategy, it includes retaining roster depth and allowing time to actually see rookies play. Joe knows that your projected array of proficient routes includes a lot of routes by players that have never stepped on an NFL field. He also knows 2 receivers running your array of routes are above average injury risk

        if you offer me a starting OG or OC, I have a different answer. But today for a 2026 Rd5 or Rd6 pick? Nope. I can trade him next February for that.
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        • eaterfan
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          #14728
          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          Why wouldn’t they just ask for Reagor or Rice? TPB knows both of them are better, why won’t the cowboys? Rice has HOF potential

          I’m betting neither - best bet is 2027. 2026 if he has not improved further. You call it redundancy, Joe and I call it depth. Its the same reason Pip is here. We do have a roster building strategy, it includes retaining roster depth and allowing time to actually see rookies play. Joe knows that your projected array of proficient routes includes a lot of routes by players that have never stepped on an NFL field. He also knows 2 receivers running your array of routes are above average injury risk

          if you offer me a starting OG or OC, I have a different answer. But today for a 2026 Rd5 or Rd6 pick? Nope. I can trade him next February for that.
          If he stinks this year you probably can't. But who cares? A 5th or 6th really isn't worth much. Very few of them become solid starters. I think the chances of him improving to be an above average #3 WR are much higher than him falling off to not being worth a 5th or 6th rounder.

          I think there's a solid chance 25-33% chance he actually turns into a weapon this year. He's not going to be a reliable number one ever. He's too boom or bust for that. But if you just give him the routes he does best 85% of the time, he could hit 900 yards and take over 1-2 games a year.

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            #14729
            Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

            “stacked”???

            I would say it’s more a perky B cup at this point.

            We have two promising but unproven rookies behind Ladd and an unknown what’s left in the tank veteran.

            I’m excited about the potential as much as any fan but the uncertainty is real.

            As much as I distrust QJ’s capabilities, unless we add another proven vet to the WR room, I don’t think he is expendable right now.
            100%

            I like the Harris and KLS picks but as you note, unproven. Mike Williams cannot be counted on to play the full season though the signing made sense for 3m.

            QJ cannot be traded unless they have a back up plan to replace him. And thats probably Keenan Allen

            My guess, the Cowboys bring back Amari Cooper over trading for QJ. Hell, Jerrah might just sign Slayer

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            • Javia
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              #14730
              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

              Hollywood Brown is a different type of receiver than QJ, and the Ravens simply kept drafting weapons after trading him.

              Gadsden catches everything and he's a big slot.

              The issue as far as I am concerned is not fit or talent or compensation level so much as clutch drops.

              A fresh start in TCU country would do QJ good plus interest Jerry.

              Of course Hortiz would like an additional midrounder next year.

              This board is trying so hard to justify being nice to QJ when this is a football decision.

              Tre was drafted to play early.
              "Tre was drafted to play early."

              QJ was drafted to replace an expensive and aging MW or Allen, Colson was drafted to be our starting ILB and Oboigbe was drafted to be a starting DT, but none of that happened in their rookie seasons. Draftees don't always work out. When you are a team that was desperately short of weapons last year, you probably should hold on to the weapons you do have. At least until the new guys have proven themselves.

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              • wu-dai clan
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                #14731
                Originally posted by Javia View Post

                "Tre was drafted to play early."

                QJ was drafted to replace MW or Allen, Colson was drafted to be our starting ILB and Oboigbe was drafted to be a starting DT, but none of that happened in their rookie seasons. Draftees don't always work out. When you are a team that was desperately short of weapons last year, you probably should hold on to the weapons you do have. At least until the new guys have proven themselves.
                Upon further review I am very high on Tre.

                Omarrion-Tre-Orande.
                Yes !!!

                When they show anything, they immediately pole vault to mucho snaps.

                From there, it is creating Herbert confidence in going to them.

                QJ is in the rear view mirror, as snaps are unavailable.

                This is my central point !
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                • wu-dai clan
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                  #14732
                  This is classic TPB.

                  "TT sucked...get weapons, Joe !"

                  We get weapons.

                  "Whoa, just slow your roll, they are rookies !"

                  After Hollywood got out of Baltimore, the Ravens simply pivoted to Bateman, Likely and Flowers.

                  It's going to be OK.
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                  • dmac_bolt
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                    #14733
                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                    Upon further review I am very high on Tre.

                    Omarrion-Tre-Orande.
                    Yes !!!

                    When they show anything, they immediately pole vault to mucho snaps.

                    From there, it is creating Herbert confidence in going to them.

                    QJ is in the rear view mirror, as snaps are unavailable.

                    This is my central point !
                    Trey and KLS are welcome to win WR1/2 and WR3 starting spots and Herbie's confidence in camp. I am fine if they beat out Q (and Dub?) on Day1, nobody is ever injured, and Q sees little or no play time. If all pan out as deliciously as you project, and I hope they do, then we enjoy the luxury of a slightly over-priced Q insurance policy on the bench. Q fits in the roster, he fits the cap, and he can play in 2025 if an emergency arises. a future R5 or R6 player may never even make a roster and obviously cannot insure anything in 2025.

                    maybe you're right, maybe you're not - that is why we buy insurance. The wise move is still to keep your powder dry and your ****zine full.
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                    • dmac_bolt
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                      #14734
                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                      This is classic TPB.

                      "TT sucked...get weapons, Joe !"

                      We get weapons.

                      "Whoa, just slow your roll, they are rookies !"

                      After Hollywood got out of Baltimore, the Ravens simply pivoted to Bateman, Likely and Flowers.

                      It's going to be OK.
                      its also going to be ok if Q sits on the bench. What is the roster move you want to make that he's taking up a roster spot to block you on? You haven't given a reason to get rid of him.

                      Why wouldn't you want to see that the rookies can actually take the wheel before you throw a current driver out of the car?
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                      • 21&500
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                        #14735
                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                        This is classic TPB.

                        "TT sucked...get weapons, Joe !"

                        We get weapons.

                        "Whoa, just slow your roll, they are rookies !"

                        After Hollywood got out of Baltimore, the Ravens simply pivoted to Bateman, Likely and Flowers.

                        It's going to be OK.
                        100%
                        hahaha

                        truth is, we should have been on a diligent search for weapons and OL the moment we realized we had a true franchise QB.
                        OL we addressed immediately (if you remember that horrid 2020 OL) but weapons were ignored. We relied on aging vets (ekeler, williams, allen) and then our one shot at a first round wr, we blew with "a developing" wr.

                        Herbert with his new toys and score first, score last and end games in victory formation.
                        20 year storm approaching
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                        • Leslie Grossman
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                          #14736
                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          32 and 64 for 22 would have been pretty stout - but Hampton is a good player
                          Looking how it all played out Im thrilled they took Hampton👍
                          Edge and corner first 2 rounds next year

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