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  • Velo
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    Chargers (-1.5) at Broncos Pregame Discussion (Wk 6)

    I'm confident the Chargers will win this game. The Broncos' defense has played well in their past two games, but I don't think it's elite. Bo Nix throwing for 60 yds, completing 48%. Minter's defense will shut that down. I'm confident the offense will be much better in this game. This game will be the 2nd of back to back division games the Broncs host, they have Raiders in their house this weekend.

    At 2-2 going into this game, the Chargers are OK. They've won two games in which they dominated, they've lost two games against undefeated teams, but they were not dominated, they scored first in both games - TDs not FGs - and were the better team for much of both games. The impact of unfortunate injuries can't be ignored.

    Jim Harbaugh is taking ownership of the mistakes he made in the Chiefs loss.

    The offense is still a work in progress. It's too soon IMO to start calling out Greg Roman. He's going to need a little time to figure out what works best for this group of offense players and their skill sets, from the OL, the QB, the RBs, the WRs and the TEs. Let's not forget that Herbert's top four passing weapons the past two seasons are now gone. He is starting over with a new group of mostly young players.

    LMC (McConkey) is going to get better every week. He is going to be the next great Chargers' WR in the KA mode. QJ I'm still not sure about. Palmer IMO is a good #3 WR, but that is probably his ceiling. I'm interested to see if Chark comes of IR for the Broncos and what impact he can have on the passing game.

    The in-season trade prospects this year are unusually deep at WR, it may behoove Hortiz to trade for one - Amari Cooper, DHop and Dionte Johnson are my top choices right now. We are in competition with the Chiefs here. The Raiders will probably trade Davante Adams, but I doubt Telesco will do business with the Chargers or Chiefs. I'm reading the Panthers are definitely going to move Johnson, Adam Schefter thinks so. He's in the last year of his contract and he apparently does not want to re-sign in Carolina, so the best bet is for the Panthers is to get some trade compensation. At 28 he's younger than Cooper or DHop. He had 2,100 yds receiving in his 2nd & 3rd seasons, with 15 TD receptions, when he was playing with a good QB (Roethlisberger). Given the situation, he could probably be had for a low draft pick, his cap hit is $10 mil for 2024.

    I'm picking the Chargers 24-6 over the Broncos in Denver coming off the bye.
  • Riverwalk
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    #2
    I overhead Sam Mustipher say, “If Slater and Alt aren’t back and I have to play, I can’t see 24 points against this stout Denver defense.”

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    • sonorajim
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      #3
      I like your enthusiasm Velo and I hope you're right.

      Given that our team stats are pretty equal, particularly Chargers #1 D vs Den #3 I think it'll be tough.

      But I don't want to be a wet blanket. I think we get our run game back and open up some pass completions.

      Go Bolts!! Get the W.

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      • Riverwalk
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        #4
        I predict Bosa will play an entire game and not get injured.

        Too much?

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        • CivilBolt
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          #5
          Originally posted by Velo View Post
          I'm confident the Chargers will win this game. The Broncos' defense has played well in their past two games, but I don't think it's elite. Bo Nix throwing for 60 yds, completing 48%. Minter's defense will shut that down. I'm confident the offense will be much better in this game. This game will be the 2nd of back to back division games the Broncs host, they have Raiders in their house this weekend.

          At 2-2 going into this game, the Chargers are OK. They've won two games in which they dominated, they've lost two games against undefeated teams, but they were not dominated, they scored first in both games - TDs not FGs - and were the better team for much of both games. The impact of unfortunate injuries can't be ignored.

          Jim Harbaugh is taking ownership of the mistakes he made in the Chiefs loss.

          The offense is still a work in progress. It's too soon IMO to start calling out Greg Roman. He's going to need a little time to figure out what works best for this group of offense players and their skill sets, from the OL, the QB, the RBs, the WRs and the TEs. Let's not forget that Herbert's top four passing weapons the past two seasons are now gone. He is starting over with a new group of mostly young players.

          LMC (McConkey) is going to get better every week. He is going to be the next great Chargers' WR in the KA mode. QJ I'm still not sure about. Palmer IMO is a good #3 WR, but that is probably his ceiling. I'm interested to see if Chark comes of IR for the Broncos and what impact he can have on the passing game.

          The in-season trade prospects this year are unusually deep at WR, it may behoove Hortiz to trade for one - Amari Cooper, DHop and Dionte Johnson are my top choices right now. We are in competition with the Chiefs here. The Raiders will probably trade Davante Adams, but I doubt Telesco will do business with the Chargers or Chiefs. I'm reading the Panthers are definitely going to move Johnson, Adam Schefter thinks so. He's in the last year of his contract and he apparently does not want to re-sign in Carolina, so the best bet is for the Panthers is to get some trade compensation. At 28 he's younger than Cooper or DHop. He had 2,100 yds receiving in his 2nd & 3rd seasons, with 15 TD receptions, when he was playing with a good QB (Roethlisberger). Given the situation, he could probably be had for a low draft pick, his cap hit is $10 mil for 2024.

          I'm picking the Chargers 24-6 over the Broncos in Denver coming off the bye.
          Let’s get Cooper before the Chiefs does. Perhaps Mack can convince him to join the party

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          • Velo
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            #6
            Originally posted by CivilBolt View Post

            Let’s get Cooper before the Chiefs does. Perhaps Mack can convince him to join the party
            Supposedly, in addition to the Chiefs, the Cowboys and even the Raiders are interested in Cooper as well, two teams he previously played for. The Browns have converted his 2024 salary into a signing bonus, making his cap hit this season about $600k for a team that trades for him at the deadline. He just turned 30 in June, not ancient for a WR.

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            • Classic
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              We havent won @Denver since week 17 2018. Thats embarassing as the Broncos have been the worst team in the NFL since then. Minter's defense is the only thing worth watching on this team this year. I believe we can make a tough day for Bo Nix. The only problem is the Broncos might have a better defense and our offense without our OT healthy are a bottom 2 team.

              Edit: As bad as not winning against the Chiefs at Home since our San Diego days is this streak vs Broncos is worse

              Here is how we got there.

              2019 Drew Lock gets help from refs with Hayward DPI in final seconds. Broncos kick last second FG.



              2020 Herbert and the offense is humming along up until a long Phillip Linsey breaks the chargers defense. Chargers started 24-3.



              2021

              I missed this game but it might be the only one where we deserved to lose. Bad game by Herbert and Pick Six to PS2.



              2022

              The Brandon Staley special game. Its week 17 and your team has clinched a playoff spot 2 weeks ago. Perfect time to rest your guys and prepare the playoffs right? Played our starters for a half and loss our Star WR for a playoff game.



              2023

              Disaster season but hey we fired Staley and begin our Harbaugh search. So this so morale victory lol

              Last edited by Classic; 10-01-2024, 01:26 PM.

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              • Heatmiser
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                #8
                Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
                I overhead Sam Mustipher say, “If Slater and Alt aren’t back and I have to play, I can’t see 24 points against this stout Denver defense.”
                What Mustipher did not do on the field against KC speaks so loudly, I can't hear him speak.
                Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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                • dmac_bolt
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Velo View Post
                  I'm confident the Chargers will win this game. The Broncos' defense has played well in their past two games, but I don't think it's elite. Bo Nix throwing for 60 yds, completing 48%. Minter's defense will shut that down. I'm confident the offense will be much better in this game. This game will be the 2nd of back to back division games the Broncs host, they have Raiders in their house this weekend.

                  At 2-2 going into this game, the Chargers are OK. They've won two games in which they dominated, they've lost two games against undefeated teams, but they were not dominated, they scored first in both games - TDs not FGs - and were the better team for much of both games. The impact of unfortunate injuries can't be ignored.

                  Jim Harbaugh is taking ownership of the mistakes he made in the Chiefs loss.

                  The offense is still a work in progress. It's too soon IMO to start calling out Greg Roman. He's going to need a little time to figure out what works best for this group of offense players and their skill sets, from the OL, the QB, the RBs, the WRs and the TEs. Let's not forget that Herbert's top four passing weapons the past two seasons are now gone. He is starting over with a new group of mostly young players.

                  LMC (McConkey) is going to get better every week. He is going to be the next great Chargers' WR in the KA mode. QJ I'm still not sure about. Palmer IMO is a good #3 WR, but that is probably his ceiling. I'm interested to see if Chark comes of IR for the Broncos and what impact he can have on the passing game.

                  The in-season trade prospects this year are unusually deep at WR, it may behoove Hortiz to trade for one - Amari Cooper, DHop and Dionte Johnson are my top choices right now. We are in competition with the Chiefs here. The Raiders will probably trade Davante Adams, but I doubt Telesco will do business with the Chargers or Chiefs. I'm reading the Panthers are definitely going to move Johnson, Adam Schefter thinks so. He's in the last year of his contract and he apparently does not want to re-sign in Carolina, so the best bet is for the Panthers is to get some trade compensation. At 28 he's younger than Cooper or DHop. He had 2,100 yds receiving in his 2nd & 3rd seasons, with 15 TD receptions, when he was playing with a good QB (Roethlisberger). Given the situation, he could probably be had for a low draft pick, his cap hit is $10 mil for 2024.

                  I'm picking the Chargers 24-6 over the Broncos in Denver coming off the bye.
                  I agree it is way too soon to write off the season when we sit at 2-2, its a hysterical reaction imo. I don't see an 18 pt win, I see around 10ish.

                  That said, I do not like what Greg is cooking ... he called a spectacular first drive last week and then reverted to his default which is not ok. Jim needs to get in there and shake that shit up.

                  QJ > Palmer imo. Palmer has underwhelmed, why he chose to fall down inside the 10 to make it an easier catch instead of scooping that ball and staying on his feet was a horrendous game changing error. He already has 2 drops, Q has 0. Q has 3 TDs to 0. Double the yards. etc - very different

                  QJ has risen from 2023 and I see him continuing to gain confidence each series. Palmer is a #3 as you call it. Would really like to see if this Chark rumor is a real player - is he coming back after the bye? I havent' seen any reports yet.
                  “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                  • sonorajim
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                    #10
                    Chark has very good speed and has avg 14.5 YPC.How he fits with Roman and Herbert remains to be seen but the (dreaded word) is there. I would like to see him play a few games for us at least.

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                    • CivilBolt
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
                      Chark has very good speed and has avg 14.5 YPC.How he fits with Roman and Herbert remains to be seen but the (dreaded word) is there. I would like to see him play a few games for us at least.
                      If he balls out… we can call it the “Chark attack”

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                      • Topcat
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by CivilBolt View Post

                        If he balls out… we can call it the “Chark attack”
                        So, if he jukes the CB for a big gainer, can we say he ahem, "put him in the Chark Tank?"

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