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  • dmac_bolt
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    #3349
    Originally posted by Maniaque 6 View Post

    Bisontis is a late first or an early 2nd
    No chance at 55 !
    if Fano or Ioane drop, run. Otherwise I agree that the next best tier are going to be long gone before 55 and LAC will have to trade to late Rd1 or “over-draft”.

    I don’t think Pregnon or Bisontis are an overdraft at 22 if they start on Day 1 and play well.
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    • DerwinBosa
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      #3350
      Some interesting thoughts from a set of Raiders mock drafts by Nick Baumgardner that may apply to us.

      If the Raiders still had Baltimore’s first-round pick, they’d be able to solve their quarterback, tackle and wide receiver needs with their first three s********s in this draft. As it stands, I’m not sure that’ll be possible without more movement. In this scenario, the Raiders select Florida OT Austin Barber at No. 67 — which might be a slight reach. Barber is probably a top-100 prospect, but I’m not sure it’s a lock. He’s an outstanding run blocker who was overly inconsistent in pass protection throughout his college career.

      However, this illustrates the ’26 draft’s tackle situation — if you don’t get one of the top seven prospects at that position (and they all might be gone in the first round), you might be better off waiting for Round 3.

      Either way, the Raiders still have enough 2026 draft ammunition to address their main needs in six picks. The question is whether or not they’ve landed six starters here. Mendoza and Bernard are no-doubters; Barber might be a starter; Benny, Davis and Stephens are good enough to compete for a job in year one, but none would have a guaranteed path.


      That was from one scenario. The following is from another.

      I love adding Dunker here at No. 67. Dunker, the owner of everyone’s favorite mullet, is a college tackle who probably will be a better fit at guard in the NFL. Still, he’s tough enough to do anything you need him to. Finding a way to get a player like that on the roster — a competitive hammer who loves to work — should be a top priority for the Raiders the rest of this offseason.

      I don't like how Baumgardner falls into the trap of writing absolutes such as, "If the Raiders still had Baltimore’s first-round pick, they’d be able to solve their quarterback, tackle and wide receiver needs with their first three s********s in this draft." The draft is not that easy. But the point is, with a handful of offensive line prospects such as Gennings Dunker, an offensive tackle in college who may switch to guard in the NFL, expected to be picked from Round 3 on, maybe it's not such a must for Hortiz to grab an interior offensive lineman in the first or second round. There are plenty of good starting guards all over the NFL who weren't drafted in the first two rounds.

      https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/713...nando-mendoza/

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      • wu-dai clan
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        #3351
        The Chargers are either going to draft a bright, shiny object that falls into their lap @ #22, ...

        or they will overdraft slightly at a position of highest need ie EDGE (replace Oweh) ; IOL (talent infusion w/specific skill set).

        Does anyone really think Mack/Tuli will NOT be together for years ? A pass rush specialist with a nonstop motor (vital vs Mahomes & Bo) can be had @ #22 There is a certainty that not all the boxes are checked, whoever it is. This player can also be had in round 3 or 4.

        At IOL, Pregnon, Bisontis will definitely be gone by #55. They are ideal fits.

        Obvipusly, this is our dilemma. This is our choice. Let me be blunt. PFF Sim is not gospel. Pundits I respect have Mesidor, Bisontis and Pregnon in the same mid, high round 2 range.
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        • sonorajim
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          #3352
          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
          The Chargers are either going to draft a bright, shiny object that falls into their lap @ #22, ...

          or they will overdraft slightly at a position of highest need ie EDGE (replace Oweh) ; IOL (talent infusion w/specific skill set).

          Does anyone really think Mack/Tuli will NOT be together for years ? A pass rush specialist with a nonstop motor (vital vs Mahomes & Bo) can be had @ #22 There is a certainty that not all the boxes are checked, whoever it is. This player can also be had in round 3 or 4.

          At IOL, Pregnon, Bisontis will definitely be gone by #55. They are ideal fits.

          Obvipusly, this is our dilemma. This is our choice. Let me be blunt. PFF Sim is not gospel. Pundits I respect have Mesidor, Bisontis and Pregnon in the same mid, high round 2 range.
          I believe you're on the right track with Lomu. There's a stack of OTs who may be willing to move inside and have good movement skills. I Imagine Joe has them identified. Fano would be another. Freeling maybe. A wide zone blocking scheme opens some doors for OGs who can work in space as opposed to a dancing bear who dominates the spot where he stands. Just a fan here but following the drama @ FA OGs has moved me to read up a little. There's always an answer. Pretty sure Joe has a good one.

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          • wu-dai clan
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            #3353
            Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

            I believe you're on the right track with Lomu. There's a stack of OTs who may be willing to move inside and have good movement skills. I Imagine Joe has them identified. Fano would be another. Freeling maybe. A wide zone blocking scheme opens some doors for OGs who can work in space as opposed to a dancing bear who dominates the spot where he stands. Just a fan here but following the drama @ FA OGs has moved me to read up a little. There's always an answer. Pretty sure Joe has a good one.
            Good post Sir.

            Here's something I will throw out there.

            First, many pundits say the exact same thing. The carbon copy comp for Emmanuel Pregnon is Kevin Dotson. The Rams traded Dotson a couple of years ago when they switched out of a wide zone scheme to gap-power.

            Let me just say Pregnon, Fano and Lomu (or as Nutty calls him "Lamu") are a perfect fit, like an Italian taylored suit..

            Lomu is the one who's there @ #22, I think.
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            • dmac_bolt
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              #3354
              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
              The Chargers are either going to draft a bright, shiny object that falls into their lap @ #22, ...

              or they will overdraft slightly at a position of highest need ie EDGE (replace Oweh) ; IOL (talent infusion w/specific skill set).

              Does anyone really think Mack/Tuli will NOT be together for years ? A pass rush specialist with a nonstop motor (vital vs Mahomes & Bo) can be had @ #22 There is a certainty that not all the boxes are checked, whoever it is. This player can also be had in round 3 or 4.

              At IOL, Pregnon, Bisontis will definitely be gone by #55. They are ideal fits.

              Obvipusly, this is our dilemma. This is our choice. Let me be blunt. PFF Sim is not gospel. Pundits I respect have Mesidor, Bisontis and Pregnon in the same mid, high round 2 range.
              I agree with every bit of this. Either “over-draft” Edge or IOL cuz the best ones we want will be gone before 55.
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              • 21&500
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                #3355
                Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                The Chargers are either going to draft a bright, shiny object that falls into their lap @ #22, ...

                or they will overdraft slightly at a position of highest need ie EDGE (replace Oweh) ; IOL (talent infusion w/specific skill set).

                Does anyone really think Mack/Tuli will NOT be together for years ? A pass rush specialist with a nonstop motor (vital vs Mahomes & Bo) can be had @ #22 There is a certainty that not all the boxes are checked, whoever it is. This player can also be had in round 3 or 4.

                At IOL, Pregnon, Bisontis will definitely be gone by #55. They are ideal fits.

                Obvipusly, this is our dilemma. This is our choice. Let me be blunt. PFF Sim is not gospel. Pundits I respect have Mesidor, Bisontis and Pregnon in the same mid, high round 2 range.
                My preference is to (perhaps) overdraft (a tad) at PON, provided, it's all a big crap shoot anyhow.
                and I'd like to heavily lean towards iOL unless a stud DL drops to us.
                Imho, we have to assume at least one of Slater or Alt will not play in a playoff game or two. So I'm fine reaching a tad to protect the franchise. Hell, let's go with 2 picks in the first 2 days.
                What happens if Herbert is among the least hit quarterbacks in 2027?
                I'd love to find out.
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                • Maniaque 6
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                  #3356
                  According to C. Reuter, Fano and Ioane are gone 13-14
                  Lomu and Bisontis could be there at 22 or 24 ?
                  Only Pregnon is there at 55
                  Don't want to take a chance at 55 for my LG !

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                  • YAC
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                    #3357
                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
                    if Fano or Ioane drop, run.
                    Run the pick in?
                    Run away?
                    Get some cardio-fitness?

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                    • YAC
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                      #3358
                      Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                      Hell, let's go with 2 picks in the first 2 days.
                      If one wants to be ultra cautious and prioritize IOL with dogged fixation, I present the scenario below... I drafted three o-linemen and a superior blocking h-back from Indiana's championship team.

                      I could see us over-drafting slightly for Bisontis. Though I'm presenting this I don't see us using 3 picks on IOL, nor the top two on IOL.

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                      • Eurobolt
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                        #3359
                        I see Pregnon as riser and Fano as faller

                        I think both of them might be there around 22nd.

                        Still believe we will trade down to gain more picks.

                        I would sign Edge and WR (trade for) with 2nd wave of FA.

                        Draft OL twice this year, CB, and whatever to make this team better.

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          #3360
                          Originally posted by YAC View Post

                          Maybe that happens, I guess, but If we traded up early I'd view it as the biggest shocker since Harbaugh/Hortiz arrived. If one wants to be ultra cautious and prioritize IOL with dogged fixation, I present the scenario below...

                          I could see us over-drafting slightly for Bisontis. Though I'm presenting this I don't see us using 3 picks on IOL, nor the top two on IOL.

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                          A lot of the mouthpieces are talking about Quenton Nelson, drafted 6th overall, right now.

                          I do believe it is in the context of Mr. Ioane being present in this draft.

                          I posted a pick of The Unit, John Hannah, the greatest guard of all time.

                          Does anyone have the stomach and the onions to trade up for Ioane?...he is very good friends!
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