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    Ah Dab GUMMIT!!!

    Today is 20th anniversary of Manning-Leaf draft

    who have amnesia
    Twenty years ago today, the Colts chose Peyton Manning with the No. 1 overall pick. In hindsight, the choice of Manning over Ryan Leaf seems incredibly easy.
  • richpjr
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    #2
    It is something that is overlooked about how many people were high on Leaf.

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    • Mister Hoarse
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      I was high on Leaf at the time.

    • Mister Hoarse
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      SEE WHAT I DID THERE
  • Rugger05
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    #3
    Sadly I was very happy after the Colts made their pick

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    • Fleet
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      #4
      I was modding a debate about terrible draft trades. And that trade for Leaf was considered the worst by the guys discussing it. I guess based on trade value chart. Which is never a good thing to use for top 3 picks.

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      • foreigner
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        #5
        I went back to check some youtube videos of him, just for fun and I'm surprised how much he and Rivers look alike.... obviously I am referring to just the build and looks.

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        • Fleet
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          #6
          Rudolph reminds me of Rivers quite a bit.

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          • Heatmiser
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            #7
            Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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            • Geezbolt
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              • Jun 2013
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              #8
              Hindsight is 20-20. You're absolutely correct. Many thought Leaf was a better pro prospect.

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              • Steve
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                #9
                The thing that kills me is how everyone knocks us for not drafting Manning.

                We NEVER had a chance to draft Manning. The Colts wanted him and weren't going to trade the pick to us. But yet, when everyone hears I am a Chargers fan the first then they bring up is "you guys should have taken Manning instead".

                Leaf didn't look like that bad a choice at the time. I don't think anyone would have expected it to go south on us so fast.

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                • Sgt Schultz
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                  #10
                  I saw a thing on TV tonight with Greg Cosell that emotional stability is the most important trait in successful QB's. The ability to deal with failure and move on. Leaf lacked theat.

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                  • Steve
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                    #11
                    I don't disagree with Cosell. What do you look at in order to judge them on their ability to deal fail? Guys like Leaf and Manning are so highly accomplished they don't have a lot of failures to look at? The problem with that statement is that if a QB had a game or two like Leaf did vs KC while they are in college, you would never draft them in the 1st place.

                    The big thing that analytics crowd point to now is that the best correlation between a QB and his success in college and the pro's in the statistical sense is completion percentage and winning percentage. Ask any QB coach, they can improve a QB's completion percentage by really working on a QB mechanics, since you simply cannot be accurate as a passer without good mechanics. There are just not a lot of obvious signs as to who the best QB is/will be.

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                    • Screeme
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                      #12
                      I was super stoked when we drafted Leaf. My Chargers taking the QB from my college! Awesome sauce!

                      Yeah....

                      Million dollar arm, Nickel brain. Shame.

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