Gruden, err, Raiders, Fire McKenzie

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  • Heatmiser
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    Gruden, err, Raiders, Fire McKenzie

    Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.
  • Panamamike
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    #2
    Yeah....big surprise...Lol. And some here insisted that McKenzie still had final say on football matters. He didn't have final say on what to order for dinner, regardless of the fluff interview piece after the Mack trade.

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    • Boltjolt
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      #3
      Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
      Yeah....big surprise...Lol. And some here insisted that McKenzie still had final say on football matters. He didn't have final say on what to order for dinner, regardless of the fluff interview piece after the Mack trade.
      I only reported what was printed. They said he did and i get Raiders news everyday in the Vegas paper,.....but then McKenzie hasn't done a very good job either. Only had the one good draft, the rest weren't that good.
      Either way, Gruden isn't an upgrade as a personel guy.
      Last edited by Boltjolt; 12-10-2018, 08:23 PM.

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      • Budsman
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        #4
        Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
        Yeah....big surprise...Lol. And some here insisted that McKenzie still had final say on football matters. He didn't have final say on what to order for dinner, regardless of the fluff interview piece after the Mack trade.
        So true. When I mentioned Gruden contract people on here who will remain unnamed argued that McKenzie was actually in charge... yeah right. The obvious has occurred, no surprise here.

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        • foreigner
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          #5
          All I know is that the AFC West will be a tough division in the next few years.

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          • RTPbolt
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            #6
            Lets hope Mahomes comes back to earth as teams develop ways to counter him. That kid has changed KCs outlook pretty dramatically. They were good before but now are really tough to beat. I do see his mobilty running as a risk for injuries though.

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            • La Costa Boy
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              #7
              I called this with a Raiders fan here at work when they hired Gruden. McKenzie won't last the 2018 season!!!

              Now if I could just work on predicting those lottery numbers......

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              • Panamamike
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                #8
                Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                I only reported what was printed. They said he did and i get Raiders news everyday in the Vegas paper,.....but then McKenzie hasn't done a very good job either. Only had the one good draft, the rest weren't that good.
                Either way, Gruden isn't an upgrade as a personel guy.

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                • Panamamike
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by foreigner View Post
                  All I know is that the AFC West will be a tough division in the next few years.
                  well....not unless horse face can find and develop a QB, or u believe Gruden can build a team. So far in both cases history says that is not likely.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    #10
                    And that is what the beat writer said, that ultimately it is Gudens contract that got McKenzie fired, though his track record sucked.
                    And like I said, Gruden isn't a good personnel guy so I'm good with it. Though they are taking about another GM to hire. Someone cheap that is Grudens yes man.
                    Last edited by Boltjolt; 12-12-2018, 03:15 PM.

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

                      well....not unless horse face can find and develop a QB, or u believe Gruden can build a team. So far in both cases history says that is not likely.
                      It's funny, at Orangmane many if those guys still want Elway to bring Chad Kelly back. Unbelievable how they think that guy was a savior. I didn't think he was all that in college and he don't have the mentality for the NFL.

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                      • foreigner
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

                        well....not unless horse face can find and develop a QB, or u believe Gruden can build a team. So far in both cases history says that is not likely.
                        Lets discuss this next year around september. We can leave it here for the moment. Deal?

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