If WhisenHunt is no longer our OC who would you guys want next season

[Boltjolt]

I have the Chargers app and there was no mention of Whiz anywhere on it. But I did come upon this piece on Lamp.

https://www.chargers.com/news/forrest-lamp-eyes-bigger-role-in-2019

[vinabolt]

Easy, Mike Martz. I want a proven commodity who has shown that he can scheme an offense. Rivers is smart and would pick up on the offense and to be honest it might just help Rivers to play longer. Our Wrs are actually pretty good fits for the system as well and if nothing else they are good enough to adapt to it. I think Allen would be amazing in this sort of system.

This opinion is wrong in so many ways. There is a reason that Martz is jobless in the NFL, can't even make it in the CFL. He's currently coach the San Diego Fleet. The game have passed him. His offense did some serious damage 20 years ago doesn't mean he's still good for 2019 NFL.

He and Norv ran similar Air Coryell based offenses, and Norv offense got Rivers beat up. That offense required some serious pass-blocking talents at OL and quick WRs who can ran deep and in sync with QB on timing. The QB got knock down when the QB and WR off by 1 second. How is it to to help Rivers play longer? If anything it goes back to the Norv days and push Rivers to retire sooner.

[Budsman]

This opinion is wrong in so many ways. There is a reason that Martz is jobless in the NFL, can't even make it in the CFL. He's currently coach the San Diego Fleet. The game have passed him. His offense did some serious damage 20 years ago doesn't mean he's still good for 2019 NFL.

He and Norv ran similar Air Coryell based offenses, and Norv offense got Rivers beat up. That offense required some serious pass-blocking talents at OL and quick WRs who can ran deep and in sync with QB on timing. The QB got knock down when the QB and WR off by 1 second. How is it to to help Rivers play longer? If anything it goes back to the Norv days and push Rivers to retire sooner.

[vinabolt]

Lol, you don't even know the timing offense that Norv ran here has gotten Rivers beaten up like a drum and nearly forced him to retire early. Martz offense, Norv offense, all the same. All come from Air Coryell. It's a 7-steps drop pass happy offense that gets QBs killed without great pass protection. Timing means nothing on QB protection with QB having to wait long on those deep routes It's an outdated offense that's rarely use in this level anymore.

[Budsman]

Lol, you don't even know the timing offense that Norv ran here has gotten Rivers beaten up like a drum and nearly forced him to retire early. Martz offense, Norv offense, all the same. All come from Air Coryell. It's a 7-steps drop pass happy offense that gets QBs killed without great pass protection. Timing means nothing on QB protection with QB having to wait long on those deep routes It's an outdated offense that's rarely use in this level anymore.

[vinabolt]

They're the same offense. Both loves timing routes from intermediate area to deep. The QB take long steps and have to wait. QBs wait longer. Blockers block longer. If you want the ball out quicker you go find a dink-and-dunk offense like in NE. But Rivers don't like that, he likes deep ball. You just don't associate anything relate to Air Coryell to "getting the ball out quicker" or "helping the QB play longer". It's the complete opposite. If you want a system that priortise less hitting on the QB go find a dink-and-dunk offense that focuses on the short-range areas.

[richpjr]

Martz's time has long since passed, thankfully.

[Boltjolt]

Yet Norv keeps getting hired quickly when he is available but the game has passed Martz by? lol.

Brian Shotenhiemer keeps getting hired and he is just a bad, boring OC.

[ghost]

I'm tracking with you, I try to keep track of where all the Don Coryell disciples like Martz, Norv Turner, and Ken Zampese are.

[Budsman]

I'm tracking with you, I try to keep track of where all the Don Coryell disciples like Martz, Norv Turner, and Ken Zampese are.

A lot of people like to beat up norb and for good reason. But the one thing they forget is he is a very good o-coordinator

[Budsman]

They're the same offense. Both loves timing routes from intermediate area to deep. The QB take long steps and have to wait. QBs wait longer. Blockers block longer. If you want the ball out quicker you go find a dink-and-dunk offense like in NE. But Rivers don't like that, he likes deep ball. You just don't associate anything relate to Air Coryell to "getting the ball out quicker" or "helping the QB play longer". It's the complete opposite. If you want a system that priortise less hitting on the QB go find a dink-and-dunk offense that focuses on the short-range areas.

[Lightnin']

Coach Lynn is as run-first a HC as is practical in todays' NFL.

He's also been successful with Ken Whisenhunt as his OC, having
won 23 games in two seasons-while the franchise won only 18 games
the previous three seasons under his predecessor.

Until serious problems are consistently exposed and/or when Rivers
retires (or seriously declines), I don't suspect we'll see a lot of upheaval
at the OC slot.