The Melvin Gordon Saga - Holdout Over

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  • blueman
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    Also is that offer still good??

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    • Topcat
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      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

      Doubt we are getting a 3rd round comp pick for Philon. It was only 2 years, 10 mill. Id bet it will be only a 5th or 6th.
      Now that Philon has been cut by the Cards, does that affect his comp value?

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      • 21&500
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        Good questions guys... keep em coming

        can we get a JoeMcRugby in here for some answers?!?
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        • Topcat
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          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
          Good questions guys... keep em coming

          can we get a JoeMcRugby in here for some answers?!?
          Maybe Steve can weigh in on this...

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          • like54ninjas
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            Interesting......

            As good as Gordon has been, there's a really good chance the Chargers will find success behind him.

            Sure, Gordon is the team's "workhorse" back and the team may not have another one of those with him being absent, but here are some numbers that may surprise you.
            • Even with Gordon, the Chargers still threw the ball 512 times while running the ball 399 times. That means they passed the ball on 56.2 percent of their offensive plays. Balance is important, but the Chargers preferred to throw the ball and that isn't going to change this year regardless of who is in the backfield.
            • Gordon missed four games and the Chargers won all of them. He carried the ball 175 times in those 12 games for an average of 14.5 carries per game. In the games he didn't play, the Chargers top ball carrier averaged 14 carries per game.
            • In the games Gordon played, the Chargers ran the ball an average of 26 times per game. In his absence, that number dipped a bit, down to 21.7 rushing attempts per game.
            • Ekeler had 106 rushing attempts on the season and actually had a better yards-per-carry average than Gordon.

            What do all of these numbers mean?

            These numbers show that with or without Gordon, the offense isn't going to change much. Anthony Lynn and Ken Whisenhunt will likely go into each and every game with the same gameplan whether Gordon is in the lineup or not. The team can call about 20 running plans and then rely on their leader, Philip Rivers, to do the rest.
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            • Velo
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              Originally posted by Topcat View Post

              Now that Philon has been cut by the Cards, does that affect his comp value?
              I believe it does. Part of the comp formula is based on performance.

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              • Panamamike
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                Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                Given Telesco's track record, that might be a good thing??
                5th round gems!
                Nobody hits em all. I will take his drafting vs 95% of the other GMs in the league. He also as an eye for UDFA gems as well. I really like the direction of the roster and depth he has built.

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                • Panamamike
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                  Originally posted by Velo View Post

                  I believe it does. Part of the comp formula is based on performance.
                  I don think it does. NE has made out like bandits, and most of the guys that have left have been outright scrubs for their next team. I believe it is based on contract value vis a vis its peer group. And the performance would be based on 1 season of a contract, which makes little sense. I could be wrong though.

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                  • Velo
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                    Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

                    I don think it does. NE has made out like bandits, and most of the guys that have left have been outright scrubs for their next team. I believe it is based on contract value vis a vis its peer group. And the performance would be based on 1 season of a contract, which makes little sense. I could be wrong though.
                    I am not sure either. I could be wrong too.

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                    • blueman
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                      Originally posted by Panamamike View Post

                      Nobody hits em all. I will take his drafting vs 95% of the other GMs in the league. He also as an eye for UDFA gems as well. I really like the direction of the roster and depth he has built.
                      Agreed. If Pipkins is the sole turd from this D heavy plus Stick draft, I'm cool with it.

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                      • Fleet
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                        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                        Doubt we are getting a 3rd round comp pick for Philon. It was only 2 years, 10 mill. Id bet it will be only a 5th or 6th.
                        No my point was that we were expected to get a 3rd with Verrett, Philon and Tyrell. If Philon is not part of the equation i dont know what that means. A 4th now?

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                        • Fleet
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                          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                          Good questions guys... keep em coming

                          can we get a JoeMcRugby in here for some answers?!?
                          Would love him. Good guy. I enjoyed my conversations with him at the CMB.

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