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  • jamrock
    lawyers, guns and money
    • Sep 2017
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    #37
    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    What's that florida dude saying ?
    The dude that's Phil's neighbor @ vaca haus ?
    LOL. I don't see that guy around anymore. Im sure he's stalking hold out Phil and his family

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    • wu-dai clan
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      #38
      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

      LOL. I don't see that guy around anymore. Im sure he's stalking hold out Phil and his family
      Too funny.
      That guy had it all figured out.
      Phil's "next door neighbor."
      Two miles away, with a swamp in between.
      I am sure they talk a lot.
      Maybe the wives talk too.
      We do not play modern football.

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      • Xenos
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        • Feb 2019
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        #39
        Let's see in 2015, we had:
        1) Rivers contemplating retirement because of his back injuries.
        2) Rivers retiring because he didn't want to move to LA.
        3) Rivers demanding a trade to Tennessee to be closer to Alabama.
        4) The Chargers FO willing to trade Rivers to the Titans in exchange for the 2nd overall pick and a shot at drafting Marcus Mariota.

        I would say that these current 2019 rumors are tame compared to what happened in the past.

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        • Xenos
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          #40
          It's harder to gauge this year how much Rivers will get because the last two contract extensions have happened almost immediately after Eli had signed his extension. I'm not sure how much of a discount the Chargers are going to get.

          This is how much 40 year old Brees signed last May (and Rivers is 3 years younger):

          The New Orleans Saints and quarterback Drew Brees have agreed to a two-year deal worth $50 million, reports NFL.com's Ian Rapoport.

          Brees will receive $27 million in guaranteed money and will include a no-trade clause, according to reports.

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          • jamrock
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            #41
            Originally posted by Xenos View Post
            Let's see in 2015, we had:
            1) Rivers contemplating retirement because of his back injuries.
            2) Rivers retiring because he didn't want to move to LA.
            3) Rivers demanding a trade to Tennessee to be closer to Alabama.
            4) The Chargers FO willing to trade Rivers to the Titans in exchange for the 2nd overall pick and a shot at drafting Marcus Mariota.

            I would say that these current 2019 rumors are tame compared to what happened in the past.
            of course. i think i'm the only rumor mongerer.

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            • Xenos
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              #42
              Originally posted by jamrock View Post

              of course. i think i'm the only rumor mongerer.
              I suppose we could also talk about how the FO can keep Rivers playing well for the entire season as opposed to just the first half. He came pretty close last year. And in 2017, he had a mediocre beginning but a great finish.

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              • Boltjolt
                Dont let the PBs fool ya
                • Jun 2013
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                #43
                Originally posted by Xenos View Post
                It's harder to gauge this year how much Rivers will get because the last two contract extensions have happened almost immediately after Eli had signed his extension. I'm not sure how much of a discount the Chargers are going to get.

                This is how much 40 year old Brees signed last May (and Rivers is 3 years younger):
                https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/13/ne...s-new-contract
                Seems like a deal Rivers would get. 23 to 25 mil a year but to me, imo he is better than Russell. He is not the best QB in the league.
                11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia (plus AZ 2025 1st)
                35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
                37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
                66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
                69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
                100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
                110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
                140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
                181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
                225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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                • richpjr
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                  • Jun 2013
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                  #44
                  Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                  Seems like a deal Rivers would get. 23 to 25 mil a year but to me, imo he is better than Russell. He is not the best QB in the league.
                  Russell isn't the best QB in the league. He is a very good QB who hit FA at the exact right time.

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                  • Steve
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                    • Jun 2013
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                    #45
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                    Russell's deal has not been updated yet.

                    Contracts size is often about the timing. The top guys contracts are always going up, especially the QB.

                    The current going rate is between $25-30 mill per season. If you want to pay less per season, you have to give up more in guaranteed money. Teams may be a bit more squeamish with that given the Alex Smith situation. Some of it will be up to Rivers and how much money is he willing to leave on the table. Brees is giving NO a home town discount to try and win a championship, and he is getting $25 million per.

                    But like I said, Rivers may have to give serious consideration as to how much money he wants to leave on the table, since there are so many key players who contracts are coming due. We only have 29 players right now under contract for 2020. That gives us 22 players we would have to sign just to fill out the roster, giving us an effective cap space of $74 mill/ Bosa, Rivers, Eckler, Pouncey, Melvin Gordon and Hunter Henry are all FA, as well as our lower priced guys in Phillips and Derek Watt.
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                    • Fleet
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                      Is this his last year or is he signed for one more?
                      Sorry i was up in LA for a bit. Yes last year. Not sure whats happening. No word on anything.

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                      • beachcomber
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                        • Jan 2019
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                        #47
                        great thread/posting peoples, and.... thinkin' 'tis 'bout a zero percent chance that PR is concerned 'bout losing his roster spot/starting role to Joshy Josh nor Tyrod, and....

                        Rosen 4 60 is a hellah good deal if it ever came 2b.

                        also think that one year of Hollywood Park will be more than enough for a 40 year old w/close to half that many kids running around.... (agree, she/they could use him/an assist there).

                        would also query as to if indeed Sam is Aok @RT, does that mean we're in the market for a developmental tackle/center then ?? (rinser & repeat ?
                        RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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                        • Boltjolt
                          Dont let the PBs fool ya
                          • Jun 2013
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                          #48
                          This here isn't very favorable for those who want or expect us to draft a QB high in this year's weak QB draft. Also not favorable for a QB when the GM has said he wants to hit a home run in the first round. Don't sound like the HR is going to be a QB.

                          https://www.chargers.com/news/why-gm...-philip-rivers
                          Last edited by Boltjolt; 04-22-2019, 05:36 PM.
                          11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia (plus AZ 2025 1st)
                          35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
                          37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
                          66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
                          69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
                          100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
                          110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
                          140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
                          181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
                          225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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