Are The Chargers Really 8th On Offense?

[AK47]

BUT THE DEFENSE MUST HOLD EARLY!

Whatsuup pac!!

I was going to disagree (well I still do)...But you are right.

Our team can beat any AFC playoff opponent in their home turf...KC, Steelers, Colts, ect. But are we built to beat N.E at Gillette stadium? If were are to pull that off our defense does need to hold early. The Patriots are the only exception to the rule imho. Defense needs to hold them that first half.

How does N.E. come back though in second halfs? Coaching. They make the adjustments and capitalize on your mistakes. The Falcons and Seahawks got out coached towards the end of their SB losses to the Patriots imho.

[Fleet]

That's a good point about whiz.
I think it's a far grade.I think where basically b+at QB b at RB and b+ to a- at WR.OL is a bit more concerning.Rivers and the O goes about as far as they'll take us.Need a FA singing there.

Hey man welcome to the family. Good to have you.

[like54ninjas]

That's a good point about whiz.
I think it's a far grade.I think where basically b+at QB b at RB and b+ to a- at WR.OL is a bit more concerning.Rivers and the O goes about as far as they'll take us.Need a FA singing there.

I concur. Won't be surprised if we go after a cap casualty cut as teams account for their incoming rookie class.

Good to have you Fleet 1!

[beachcomber]

I think the offense know who they are, what they can do and it's a darn good, experienced QB, RB, WR, TE unit if we stay reasonably healthy. The OL should be OK.
Great defense is huge. We aren't the '85 Bears or '00 Ravens, not those personnel but should be very effective with the improvements at DT, LB, FS.
Special Teams is ? Money Badger was a great find. One of the Ty's should improve punting. Returns should be good. Coverages need to make more plays and we had 0 blocks of FG or punt. Get better field position, some takeaways, ST scoring, we're looking like a complete playoff team.

gonna fine tooth comb the above a bit, as think we're asking a lot of Tillery to claim him an upgrade over Liuget (15th overall btw), who of course was out a bit, but did play pretty darn well when healthy/available, and as am under the impression that Tillery may miss a coupla few games at the outset of the season, not to mention his recovery period from the torn labrum, and that consensus is that a DT takes a year to adjust to things in the IDL.

also think it fairly brave conjecture to summon an upgrade @LB, as there is no reason to believe that Denzel is gonna turn into Superman next season, not to mention that we drafted an injury prone rookie who does not hang his hat on run D as his backup.

we do have Davis, and hopefully the one or the both of Jatavis and Kyzir can show up for games more oft than not, albeit again think Uchenna is showing more as a LEO/pass rush specialist than a SAM solid, and w/Emeke again being a rookie.... reasons for optimism @LB, and @least speaking for myself.... guarded optimism at the very least.

and love me some Adderley, and.... Addae was an established vet, who admittedly left most of us w/furrowed brows, and.... am personally bullish on Nasir, and.... not sure it's a fair shake counting on him to right the ship from the single high.... @least not quite yet.

on O we lost TWill, MG was dinged a fair bit, and Henry is on his comeback tour, and w/little in the way of accompaniment for if and when he might get nicked up for any sorta bit.

am also a bit bearish on our sometimes ailing vets.... Russell, Pouncey and Mebane.

we squeaked out more than a coupla few wins and failed to hold court @home as oft as perhaps we coulda, shoulda, or woulda, and.... still a bit of work to do here, and w/the usual top shelf competition within the division, not to mention from without.

[boltfanseattle]

Fair grade to me.

[Cdn Bolt]

I am worried about the DL and run D as always. We lost Liuget, Philon and Square and more or less replaced them w Tillery, TY McGill and Broughton. We get back Denzel Perrymen but can he stay healthy?

I sees us similar to last yr. If Perrymen gets hurt again we are right back to getting run all over by NE. have to take the cautious approach and hope for something better though.

[sonorajim]

gonna fine tooth comb the above a bit, as think we're asking a lot of Tillery to claim him an upgrade over Liuget (15th overall btw), who of course was out a bit, but did play pretty darn well when healthy/available, and as am under the impression that Tillery may miss a coupla few games at the outset of the season, not to mention his recovery period from the torn labrum, and that consensus is that a DT takes a year to adjust to things in the IDL.

also think it fairly brave conjecture to summon an upgrade @LB, as there is no reason to believe that Denzel is gonna turn into Superman next season, not to mention that we drafted an injury prone rookie who does not hang his hat on run D as his backup.

we do have Davis, and hopefully the one or the both of Jatavis and Kyzir can show up for games more oft than not, albeit again think Uchenna is showing more as a LEO/pass rush specialist than a SAM solid, and w/Emeke again being a rookie.... reasons for optimism @LB, and @least speaking for myself.... guarded optimism at the very least.

and love me some Adderley, and.... Addae was an established vet, who admittedly left most of us w/furrowed brows, and.... am personally bullish on Nasir, and.... not sure it's a fair shake counting on him to right the ship from the single high.... @least not quite yet.

on O we lost TWill, MG was dinged a fair bit, and Henry is on his comeback tour, and w/little in the way of accompaniment for if and when he might get nicked up for any sorta bit.

am also a bit bearish on our sometimes ailing vets.... Russell, Pouncey and Mebane.

we squeaked out more than a coupla few wins and failed to hold court @home as oft as perhaps we coulda, shoulda, or woulda, and.... still a bit of work to do here, and w/the usual top shelf competition within the division, not to mention from without.

I liked Liuget but always felt he was out of position as a 4-3 3T playing 3-4 DE 2011-2016. By the time he moved to his natural position he had suffered numerous injuries. He never had Tillery's length & agility. Tillery has a higher ceiling, obviously since Corey was in decline. He should be an immediate upgrade and have games that the current Liuget could not produce. Jones was pretty decent and should take a step up in yr 2. Broughton is a dark horse that may surprise. He has some supporters.
Denzel is our big hitter. Him playing healthy is far better than Denzel dinged up or not playing. I imagine that he'll take the game a little more seriously with Davis in the house.Davis is a possible HOF candidate who was playing at a PB level in 2018. Tranquill is as serious as a heart attack. It'll be hard for anyone to match his level of dedication to every aspect of training. Nwosu, Brown, White & Egbule should benefit from the level of talent & experience in the LB unit.
Heck, I could go on & on but let's see how they do. IMO we have the most likely dominant D that LAC has had in many years.

[like54ninjas]

I am worried about the DL and run D as always. We lost Liuget, Philon and Square and more or less replaced them w Tillery, TY McGill and Broughton. We get back Denzel Perrymen but can he stay healthy?

I sees us similar to last yr. If Perrymen gets hurt again we are right back to getting run all over by NE. have to take the cautious approach and hope for something better though.

None of our other LBers are effective against the run?

[Cdn Bolt]

None of our other LBers are effective against the run?

Perrymen is supposed to be the key to the run d apparently and is the MLB. Not sure Khzir White is supposed to be a run stuffer. He was a S in college and is more a coverage guy Same for Jatavis Brown. Maybe Davis will help

[like54ninjas]

Perrymen is supposed to be the key to the run d apparently and is the MLB. Not sure Khzir White is supposed to be a run stuffer. He was a S in college and is more a coverage guy Same for Jatavis Brown. Maybe Davis will help

You know Davis was a safety in college too?
Kyzir, Davis, Brown, & Tranquill all have the size to play Mike. Kyzir is the only other real hammer currently but he has dramatically superior pass defense skills.

[beachcomber]

You know Davis was a safety in college too?
Kyzir, Davis, Brown, & Tranquill all have the size to play Mike. Kyzir is the only other real hammer currently but he has dramatically superior pass defense skills.

218 Kyzir
220 Rayshawn
221 Brown

234 Tranquil
240 Dzubnar

235 Davis
240 Denzel
245 Egbule
247 Supa Mel

not sure what is being referred to w/White as a "real hammer," as think you can safely omit Kyzir and Jatavis from any MLB discussion.

and as DJ politely explained, that atm Drue is a special teamer that might find his way into some sub packages.... not so much of a run defender, 'specially @MIKE

do think you can include Davis in the mix @MIKE, along w/Egbule and Melvin.

hopefully Denzel surprises and stays relatively healthy over the long haul.

[like54ninjas]

218 Kyzir
220 Rayshawn
221 Brown

234 Tranquil
240 Dzubnar

235 Davis
240 Denzel
245 Egbule
247 Supa Mel

not sure what is being referred to w/White as a "real hammer," as think you can safely omit Kyzir and Jatavis from any MLB discussion.

and as DJ politely explained, that atm Drue is a special teamer that might find his way into some sub packages.... not so much of a run defender, 'specially @MIKE

do think you can include Davis in the mix @MIKE, along w/Egbule and Melvin.

hopefully Denzel surprises and stays relatively healthy over the long haul.

Beach don't be misinformed by college/combine weights.
Kyzir played last season about 230. Look for him to be about 235 this season. Kyzir is an Impact hitter not just a tackler. I know most expect Davis to start but if Kyzir is healthy, he is the starter.
Hell even Brown was up to about 230 last season. Bosa played DE at 260.
SupaMel is not in the realm of a possibility as our starting MIKE.
Lets never confuse weight with power.