having tevi play tackle from dl confused me. might he play better with aggression at og like dielman? that would have seemed logical
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Draft one OT and one OG in the first three rounds out of one of the following:
Andrew Thomas*, OT, Georgia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1
Austin Jackson*, OT, USC
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
Projected Round (2020): 1
Alex Leatherwood*, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-6. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.34.
Projected Round (2020): 1-2
Trey Adams, OT, Washington
Height: 6-7. Weight: 334.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3
Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa
Height: 6-5. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3
Sam Cosmi**, OT, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3
Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
Height: 6-7. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3
Solomon Kindley*, G, Georgia
Height: 6-4. Weight: 335.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2020): 1
Shane Lemieux, G, Oregon
Height: 6-4. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1-2
Trey Smith*, G/OT, Tennessee
Height: 6-6. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 2-3
Ben Bredeson, G, Michigan
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2020): 2-3
11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia (plus AZ 2025 1st)
35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st
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2020 has me concerned that TT will bank on the return of players to the O-line being healthy will shore up the line
C-Pouncey when Miami released him injuries was a part of it, now two season in he has yet to make it through a full season, now neck and back injury I would be very suspect in him contributing for a full season in 2020 if he even makes it out of training camp\pre-season healthy. I would be okay moving on from him to Quessenbery, but we just extended Pouncey and there is that vet loyalty that goes on here.
G-Lamp has shown enough to be a starter, but, but, big but can he stay Healthy?
OT-Okung despite playing up until the groin injury, still have to be concerned with blood clots in the future and up in age.
Scott and Tevi need to be gone at the end of the season, so other than Pipkins who showed some growth from where he was at in pre-season. The overall o-line is in question and depth is non-exsistant.
So TT probably see as 2/3rd's of the line in intact going into 2020 and the two thing we would like to see more than likely will not happen like a high pick on an O-lineman or going after a top Free Agent O-lineman.
What does all this mean if we stay status quo we'll need a mobile QB, if TT does the opposite of what he's been doing and get the line fixed, River's can come back and make one more run for the only thing missing from his resume a Super Bowl.
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Originally posted by OhioBolt View Post2020 has me concerned that TT will bank on the return of players to the O-line being healthy will shore up the line
C-Pouncey when Miami released him injuries was a part of it, now two season in he has yet to make it through a full season, now neck and back injury I would be very suspect in him contributing for a full season in 2020 if he even makes it out of training camp\pre-season healthy. I would be okay moving on from him to Quessenbery, but we just extended Pouncey and there is that vet loyalty that goes on here.
G-Lamp has shown enough to be a starter, but, but, big but can he stay Healthy?
OT-Okung despite playing up until the groin injury, still have to be concerned with blood clots in the future and up in age.
Scott and Tevi need to be gone at the end of the season, so other than Pipkins who showed some growth from where he was at in pre-season. The overall o-line is in question and depth is non-exsistant.
So TT probably see as 2/3rd's of the line in intact going into 2020 and the two thing we would like to see more than likely will not happen like a high pick on an O-lineman or going after a top Free Agent O-lineman.
What does all this mean if we stay status quo we'll need a mobile QB, if TT does the opposite of what he's been doing and get the line fixed, River's can come back and make one more run for the only thing missing from his resume a Super Bowl.
This is a giant disconnect.
Okung is only back playing football AFTER doctors first said the situation is stabilized,
by a comfortable margin,
and will be safely managed through medicine moving forward.
I agree with most everything else you are saying, except I want Scott and Schofield to be the ones not retained.
Players like Pouncey and TDavis are here in a large part
to help develop Feeney, Qberry, Kyzir and Tranquill as legimate NFL players.
I am concerned both that it will be too much status quo from TT,
and that TPB, and most Charger fans elsewhere, want a major Oline overhaul,
while Phil is still here trying to gitter done.We do not play modern football.
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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
Why is anyone concerned with Okung's blood clots ?
This is a giant disconnect.
Okung is only back playing football AFTER doctors first said the situation is stabilized,
by a comfortable margin,
and will be safely managed through medicine moving forward.
I agree with most everything else you are saying, except I want Scott and Schofield to be the ones not retained.
Players like Pouncey and TDavis are here in a large part
to help develop Feeney, Qberry, Kyzir and Tranquill as legimate NFL players.
I am concerned both that it will be too much status quo from TT,
and that TPB, and most Charger fans elsewhere, want a major Oline overhaul,
while Phil is still here trying to gitter done.
I just feel there is a whole lot of questions with the o-line going into 2020. I did mention Scott and Tevi, but yes Schofield also need to be gone at the end of the season.
Pouncey I don't have a problem with him being here I just think they are going to be counting on him more than what he is able to give. It is just a bad situation because you can't completely overhaul the oline in one year the fact that TT has neglected the oline and made bad choices in his selection has really hurt the team.
Who are the the guys that you can say he will be solid on the o-line in 2020? Replacing two starters is tuff, three is impossible. The only two with a resume of playing at high level are Pouncy & Okung. Quessnbery has held his own, can he do it full time, Lamp showed potential but man he has yet to make it through a whole season, Pipken is work in progress can he make the jump next season. That is a lot of ifs on the oline and we counting on the two we know that can perform at high level in Pouncey and Okung to stay healthy.
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Originally posted by OhioBolt View Post
I don't claim to be a Doctor, but Chris Bosch Miami Heat basketball player came back and later retired because of blood clots, it just nothing is 100% guarantee especially in Pro Football a whole lot more phyiscality involved.
I just feel there is a whole lot of questions with the o-line going into 2020. I did mention Scott and Tevi, but yes Schofield also need to be gone at the end of the season.
Pouncey I don't have a problem with him being here I just think they are going to be counting on him more than what he is able to give. It is just a bad situation because you can't completely overhaul the oline in one year the fact that TT has neglected the oline and made bad choices in his selection has really hurt the team.
Who are the the guys that you can say he will be solid on the o-line in 2020? Replacing two starters is tuff, three is impossible. The only two with a resume of playing at high level are Pouncy & Okung. Quessnbery has held his own, can he do it full time, Lamp showed potential but man he has yet to make it through a whole season, Pipken is work in progress can he make the jump next season. That is a lot of ifs on the oline and we counting on the two we know that can perform at high level in Pouncey and Okung to stay healthy.
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Chris Bosch ? Medical advancements have improved exponentially. The NFL is very cognizant of potential liabiity issues these days. My concerns with Okung have been that he would never come back and that he would have slow recovery from loss of strength. This is a classic side effect. The working model should be the Nebraska player who was back to his old self by the following year.
2004 ? I would argue that Dlinemen are much better now. Colleges do not now develop pro ready Olinemen. Also, there is scarcity at Oline league wide. Hardwick, Goff, Olivea, Oben. The sum was greater than the total of the parts. It was more like AJ was luckier than TT. It just worked. They played well together, rather than they were more talented. Now, we still need to find chemistry. We need to draft an outstanding Olineman, to bring the whole unit to life. OLT/Center, Okung/Pouncey, that is a huge loss. Round 3 raw prospect/UDFA, Pipkins/TScott, that is a shit show of a bookend combo.
We do not play modern football.
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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View PostChris Bosch ? Medical advancements have improved exponentially. The NFL is very cognizant of potential liabiity issues these days. My concerns with Okung have been that he would never come back and that he would have slow recovery from loss of strength. This is a classic side effect. The working model should be the Nebraska player who was back to his old self by the following year.
2004 ? I would argue that Dlinemen are much better now. Colleges do not now develop pro ready Olinemen. Also, there is scarcity at Oline league wide. Hardwick, Goff, Olivea, Oben. The sum was greater than the total of the parts. It was more like AJ was luckier than TT. It just worked. They played well together, rather than they were more talented. Now, we still need to find chemistry. We need to draft an outstanding Olineman, to bring the whole unit to life. OLT/Center, Okung/Pouncey, that is a huge loss. Round 3 raw prospect/UDFA, Pipkins/TScott, that is a shit show of a bookend combo.
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What is the consensus opinion on the play of Quessenberry? Is he a keeper? Is he a legitimate starter at center good enough to replace Pouncey? Pouncey is under contract for one more year? Keep him or cut him?
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