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  • jubei
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    #25
    Originally posted by foreigner View Post
    "“Anytime you speed the game up on anyone, decision-making can get a little iffy at times,” Chargers head coach Anthony Lynn said. “I definitely thought they sped the game up on us a little bit, but there were plays to be made as well. We just didn’t make those plays.”

    This team seems to be always unprepared.
    that sounds ridiculous! so what if a team sped it up a bit?! ur gonna continue going at your speed and wait for them to slow down for you?! maybe I'm taking it outa context but that sounds like they were not prepared to change pace if they needed to.

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    • Topcat
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      #26
      Originally posted by Fleet View Post
      I was thinking about Joe Burrow and who i think he may compare to a little bit coming out of college. A guy that had some success in a Reid type offense. And that is a guy who can manage a game...and make plays with his legs late in his career. Alex Smith. So many college guys are ultra mobile and not overly amazing passing the ball....but i think Burrow is both. A pocket guy and rpo guy. But is extremely athletic while running and will still have that part of his game late in his career. I wonder how long guys like Murray and Jackson will be effective once they cant run like they do now. Especially LJ.

      So Rivers retires. We sell the farm for Burrow. And sign Bienemy to lead the team and change the offense. Bring in a FA OL or 2.
      Suppose the Bolts finish somewhere in the middle of the pack, with a final record of around 7-9 or so. Suppose they're drafting at around #16 overall. According to a lot of the mocks I've seen so far, Burrow and Tua are the two top picks in the 2020 draft. First of all, do u really think the Bengals or Fins will pass on either of these guys? But, okay, if by some weird reason they do choose to trade down, suppose Burrow actually goes #1 overall, which appears likely at this point. #1 overall is worth 3,000 points on the draft value chart. If the Bolts pick around #16 overall, that pick is worth 1,000 points. Even if we add in our 2nd round pick at #48 overall for 420 points, and our 3rd round pick at #80 overall for 190 points, and ALL the other picks for 70, 34, 21 and 8.2, we get a grand total of 1,743 points, which might get you the #5 overall player at 1,700 points. So, Burrow would have to fall to #5 overall, to a team willing to trade down. Highly unlikely, but okay, possible. Now, there IS one possibility that MIGHT work. If the Bolts sell the whole farm AND add Benji to sweeten the pot, the team picking at #5 overall MIGHT just go for it...

      https://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

      :chuckle:
      Last edited by Topcat; 11-11-2019, 09:02 PM.

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      • Boltjolt
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        #27
        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

        Suppose the Bolts finish somewhere in the middle of the pack, with a final record of around 7-9 or so. Suppose they're drafting at around #16 overall. According to a lot of the mocks I've seen so far, Burrow and Tua are the two top picks in the 2020 draft. First of all, do u really think the Bengals or Fins will pass on either of these guys? But, okay, if by some weird reason they do choose to trade down, suppose Burrow actually goes #1 overall, which appears likely at this point. #1 overall is worth 3,000 points on the draft value chart. If the Bolts pick around #16 overall, that pick is worth 1,000 points. Even if we add in our 2nd round pick at #48 overall for 420 points, and our 3rd round pick at #80 overall for 190 points, and ALL the other picks for 70, 34, 21 and 8.2, we get a grand total of 1,743 points, which might get you the #5 overall player at 1,700 points. So, Burrow would have to fall to #5 overall, to a team willing to trade down. Highly unlikely, but okay, possible. Now, there IS one possibility that MIGHT work. If the Bolts sell the whole farm AND add Benji to sweeten the pot, the team picking at #5 overall MIGHT just go for it...

        https://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

        :chuckle:
        We will be giving up a first in the 2021 draft as well. No brainer.
        Better than giving up three firsts if we do well the next season and pick in the mid twenties or late twenties
        11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia
        35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
        37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
        66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
        69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
        100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
        110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
        140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
        181 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Mississippi
        225 Josh Procter S-Ohio st /253 Dwight McGlothern CB -Ar​

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        • Fleet
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          #28
          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

          Suppose the Bolts finish somewhere in the middle of the pack, with a final record of around 7-9 or so. Suppose they're drafting at around #16 overall. According to a lot of the mocks I've seen so far, Burrow and Tua are the two top picks in the 2020 draft. First of all, do u really think the Bengals or Fins will pass on either of these guys? But, okay, if by some weird reason they do choose to trade down, suppose Burrow actually goes #1 overall, which appears likely at this point. #1 overall is worth 3,000 points on the draft value chart. If the Bolts pick around #16 overall, that pick is worth 1,000 points. Even if we add in our 2nd round pick at #48 overall for 420 points, and our 3rd round pick at #80 overall for 190 points, and ALL the other picks for 70, 34, 21 and 8.2, we get a grand total of 1,743 points, which might get you the #5 overall player at 1,700 points. So, Burrow would have to fall to #5 overall, to a team willing to trade down. Highly unlikely, but okay, possible. Now, there IS one possibility that MIGHT work. If the Bolts sell the whole farm AND add Benji to sweeten the pot, the team picking at #5 overall MIGHT just go for it...

          https://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

          :chuckle:
          Are we signing Benjamin again? Cause thats the only way we could add him to a trade. Hes a UFA. Getting a top 2 pick likely costs us 3 1st rounders or 2 1sts and a 2nd or 2 2nd's. And may be one of the reasons nobody here got their wish when big names became available for trade. Ramsey. Tunsil etc. Phins may think Rosen is the guy. They traded for him. Who knows. We would have to sell the farm to move up. What you lose in draft picks you can add big name free agents since you have a QB on a rookie deal.

          Worked out for the Eagles and Rams.

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          • Topcat
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            #29
            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            We will be giving up a first in the 2021 draft as well. No brainer.
            Better than giving up three if we do well the next season and pick in the mid twenties or late twenties
            So, if we sell the 2020 farm for a total of 1,743 points, and Burrow takes us, by some miracle (with this O-line) to 9-7 in 2020, suppose we move up a few slots to 9-7 or 10-6 overall record, so we're picking #21 overall. That first round pick in 2021 would normally be worth 800 points, but since it's a future pick, those are normally discounted by half price, for only 400 points. So, 1,743 + 400 = 2,143 points. The #1 and #2 overall picks would still be out of reach for us. If Burrow falls to #3 overall, that pick is worth 2,200 points, which might be close enough. It's still way too much to give up, especially with all the holes we have to fill. If there's a solid QB at around #16 overall, maybe we pull the trigger. But we need O-line help badly. I think if we draft a solid OT in round 1 and sign a solid FA OT, and draft an OG somewhere in the top 3 rounds, we will instantly make any QB better, whoever he is, whether Rivers stays with us or not...

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            • Topcat
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              #30
              Originally posted by Fleet View Post

              Are we signing Benjamin again? Cause thats the only way we could add him to a trade. Hes a UFA. Getting a top 2 pick likely costs us 3 1st rounders. And may be one of the reasons nobody here got their wish when big names became available for trade. Ramsey. Tunsil etc. Phins may think Rosen is the guy. They traded for him. Who knows. We would have to sell the farm to move up.
              Just joking about Benji---who wants "Butterfingers" after his bad drops this year--but he's under contract until after 2020 season...selling the entire 2020 farm plus next year's #1 is too high a price to pay with all the holes we have to fill, especially on O-line...
              Last edited by Topcat; 11-11-2019, 09:23 PM.

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              • richpjr
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                #31
                Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                Just joking about Benji--but he's under contract until after 2020 season...selling the entire 2020 farm plus next year's #1 is too high a price to pay with all the holes we have to fill, especially on O-line...
                Agree. If we draft a QB this year as Rivers replacement, it won’t be one of those two.

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                • Boltjolt
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                  #32
                  Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                  So, if we sell the 2020 farm for a total of 1,743 points, and Burrow takes us, by some miracle (with this O-line) to 9-7 in 2020, suppose we move up a few slots to 9-7 or 10-6 overall record, so we're picking #21 overall. That first round pick in 2021 would normally be worth 800 points, but since it's a future pick, those are normally discounted by half price, for only 400 points. So, 1,743 + 400 = 2,143 points. The #1 and #2 overall picks would still be out of reach for us. If Burrow falls to #3 overall, that pick is worth 2,200 points, which might be close enough. It's still way too much to give up, especially with all the holes we have to fill. If there's a solid QB at around #16 overall, maybe we pull the trigger. But we need O-line help badly. I think if we draft a solid OT in round 1 and sign a solid FA OT, and draft an OG somewhere in the top 3 rounds, we will instantly make any QB better, whoever he is, whether Rivers stays with us or not...
                  I think your relying too much on that chart. Teams have their own value charts. The one you are referring to is old.

                  We will draft another QB and it will be a high pick. It may not be the#1, it could be someone else in the mid first or a second rounder.
                  They aren't going to put all their eggs in Sticks basket. That would be foolish. QB should be a big priority in one of the next two drafts.

                  If they like Tua or Burrow enough to trade up, im for it. Telesco needs to get extra picks or get creative filling the OL void.
                  11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia
                  35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
                  37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
                  66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
                  69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
                  100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
                  110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
                  140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
                  181 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Mississippi
                  225 Josh Procter S-Ohio st /253 Dwight McGlothern CB -Ar​

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                  • Topcat
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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                    I think your relying too much on that chart. Teams have their own value charts. The one you are referring to is old.

                    We will draft another QB and it will be a high pick. It may not be the#1, it could be someone else in the mid first or a second rounder.
                    They aren't going to put all their eggs in Sticks basket. That would be foolish. QB should be a big priority in one of the next two drafts.

                    If they like Tua or Burrow enough to trade up, im for it. Telesco needs to get extra picks or get creative filling the OL void.
                    Yes, a mid-1st or 2nd rounder at QB would be the more likely scenario, depending on how highly rated they have that QB on their board when they're on the clock. In any case, we need to address O-line in either round 1 or 2, and preferably a double dip of O-line in rounds 3-4. Ideally, I'd like to get a solid OT and OG out of this draft, and sign a decent FA OT...

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                    • ghost
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                      #34
                      Originally posted by Fleet View Post
                      I was thinking about Joe Burrow and who i think he may compare to a little bit coming out of college. A guy that had some success in a Reid type offense. And that is a guy who can manage a game...and make plays with his legs late in his career. Alex Smith. So many college guys are ultra mobile and not overly amazing passing the ball....but i think Burrow is both. A pocket guy and rpo guy. But is extremely athletic while running and will still have that part of his game late in his career. I wonder how long guys like Murray and Jackson will be effective once they cant run like they do now. Especially LJ.

                      So Rivers retires. We sell the farm for Burrow. And sign Bienemy to lead the team and change the offense. Bring in a FA OL or 2.
                      This is a deep class for offensive lineman in 2020. If we can trade up to get Burrow or stay put and select Herbert, and new OT in the 2nd Round, sounds promising.

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                      • Fleet
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                        #35
                        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                        Just joking about Benji---who wants "Butterfingers" after his bad drops this year--but he's under contract until after 2020 season...selling the entire 2020 farm plus next year's #1 is too high a price to pay with all the holes we have to fill, especially on O-line...
                        Is he really? lol I trully thought he was off the books. Spotrac has been giving me bad info.

                        ​​​​​​https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange...benjamin-9913/

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                        • NoMoreChillies
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                          #36
                          Originally posted by ghost View Post

                          This is a deep class for offensive lineman in 2020. If we can trade up to get Burrow or stay put and select Herbert, and new OT in the 2nd Round, sounds promising.
                          if the class is deep for O-line, TT better make picks rnd1-4 O-line then. We have enough "playmakers" and no playmaker makes a difference if Rivers gets sacked.

                          TT: 2020 draft will define you.

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