Telesco Needs To Be Relieved Of Duties..

[Riverwalk]

We…me included…tend to focus on the draft more than FA.

Look at our OL. Before Oboushi and Bulaga injuries, the OL starter rebuild would be 4 FA’s and 1 draftee.

If not for injuries, that would be the best OL the Chargers had in over a decade….maybe two.

Perhaps Telesco should continue to focus on bringing in proven talent from other teams versus relying on his hit and a lot of misses drafts.

McVay sure seems to believe in that. And,look at how successful Bellichik is after his offseason FA binge.

[Bolt4Knob]

The poster is talking about a GM with more of a scouts eye. My question is if he is even familiar with our GM's scouting background?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Telesco

Thinking that Daniel Jeremiah has more scouting chops than Tom Tolesco is ridiculous.

I am not impressed with Telesco so I think a lot of people with close to 30 years experience in the NFL could do a better job than Telesco.

Jeremiah has been in and around the NFL for about 18 years. So not the longevity but I wouldn't say that he couldn't do a better job than TT

[jamrock]

This guy seems to think Denver’s new GM is doing ok: https://twitter.com/brandonmillerpo/...311341571?s=21

[NoMoreChillies]

We…me included…tend to focus on the draft more than FA.

Look at our OL. Before Oboushi and Bulaga injuries, the OL starter rebuild would be 4 FA’s and 1 draftee.

If not for injuries, that would be the best OL the Chargers had in over a decade….maybe two.

Perhaps Telesco should continue to focus on bringing in proven talent from other teams versus relying on his hit and a lot of misses drafts.

McVay sure seems to believe in that. And,look at how successful Bellichik is after his offseason FA binge.

Agree
I was worried Bulaga might not last the season, but had no thoughts the other 4 would be an issue. TT cant predict injuries

[Boltgang74]

Agree
I was worried Bulaga might not last the season, but had no thoughts the other 4 would be an issue. TT cant predict injuries

Aint gotta be a swami to know he should have grabbed more o lineman every damn draft

[Critty]

Watching the highlight show NFL rewind and rookie Q.Meinerz-OL destroying on a block.
Telesco???

McKitty better be a starting TE sooner than later because this guy Meinerz who went one pick later is already a starter and looks to be a good one. And he wasn't unknown pre draft, he was hyped as showing up at senior bowl.

Pro Football analysis had this to say about these players.

Pre-draft
Analysis: Meinerz was a dominant small-school blocker who took it to another level at the Senior Bowl and dominated every day of practice. He's a true power gap lineman who can line up at guard or center, and Meinerz comes with a large upside. He's a determined prospect who I believe will be starting in the NFL by the end of his rookie season.

Pre-draft
Analysis: McKitty possesses the size, growth potential, and football skill to get late-round consideration and make a roster as a third tight end.

Rosters decisions matter.

[Bolt4Knob]

Watching the highlight show NFL rewind and rookie Q.Meinerz-OL destroying on a block.
Telesco???

McKitty better be a starting TE sooner than later because this guy Meinerz who went one pick later is already a starter and looks to be a good one. And he wasn't unknown pre draft, he was hyped as showing up at senior bowl.

Pro Football analysis had this to say about these players.

Pre-draft
Analysis: Meinerz was a dominant small-school blocker who took it to another level at the Senior Bowl and dominated every day of practice. He's a true power gap lineman who can line up at guard or center, and Meinerz comes with a large upside. He's a determined prospect who I believe will be starting in the NFL by the end of his rookie season.

Pre-draft
Analysis: McKitty possesses the size, growth potential, and football skill to get late-round consideration and make a roster as a third tight end.

Rosters decisions matter.

They do. And Telesco's decisions with his 3rd and 4th round picks - especially -have been his biggest failure as GM. Whether trading up with these picks, or just flat out missing with picks -- had lead to a lack of quality depth, meaning free agency had to be used more often and with free agents, you probably are getting older players because they are the cheaper options.

Meinerz in Round 3 after Palmer - or an interior DL - I thought were the ways to go. With Palmer - you got your WR for depth, your skilled guy - he doubled down with a TE. (And don't get me started why Nabers is sitll on the roster and Stick not on the PS - just wasting two roster spots)

[Critty]

They do. And Telesco's decisions with his 3rd and 4th round picks - especially -have been his biggest failure as GM. Whether trading up with these picks, or just flat out missing with picks -- had lead to a lack of quality depth, meaning free agency had to be used more often and with free agents, you probably are getting older players because they are the cheaper options.

Meinerz in Round 3 after Palmer - or an interior DL - I thought were the ways to go. With Palmer - you got your WR for depth, your skilled guy - he doubled down with a TE. (And don't get me started why Nabers is sitll on the roster and Stick not on the PS - just wasting two roster spots)

He could have drafted Stevenson-RB, Molden-CB, Browning-LB or Meinerz-OL with the late 3rd Rd pick as well, instead of McKitty.
All 4 of these players ranked higher than McKitty on every draft board. By all accounts, the consensus was that McKitty was not 3rd Rd value. He was 5th-7th Rd value.
while the 4 players above were consensus 3rd Rd value.
As they were listed in nearly every board top 100 prospects.
Some even had Browning, Molden and Meinerz as top 50 prospects.
McKitty was not on anyone's top 100.
Except Telesco.

Tom needs to be released the moment the season is over if not sooner.

Ninja has mock out drafted him every year, and so have some other TPB members and that is not good sign that some draft fanatics on TPB are way better talent evaluators than Telesco and his entire staff.

[Bolt4Knob]

[QUOTE=Critty;n1286870]

He could have drafted Stevenson-RB, Molden-CB, Browning-LB or Meinerz-OL with the late 3rd Rd pick as well, instead of McKitty.
All 4 of these players ranked higher than McKitty on every draft board. By all accounts, the consensus was that McKitty was not 3rd Rd value. He was 5th-7th Rd value.
while the 4 players above were consensus 3rd Rd value.
As they were listed in nearly every board top 100 prospects.
Some even had Browning, Molden and Meinerz as top 50 prospects.
McKitty was not on anyone's top 100.
Except Telesco.

Tom needs to be released the moment the season is over if not sooner.

Ninja has mock out drafted him every year, and so have some other TPB members and that is not good sign that some draft fanatics on TPB are way better talent evaluators than Telesco and his entire staff.[/QUOTE]

I have written this before earlier in this thread - but give Ninja or some other TPB members the 30 years experience Telesco has in the NFL - and they could do a better job. I truly believe that. Now, Telesco did do the work to get a job in the NFL: intern with the Bills, moved on to the Panthers and probably being friends with the Polians helped. So give him that for working to make iot to the NFL - but damn , 30 years later - he just isn't good at his job.

[wu-dai clan]

ninja touted Kyzir.
ninja was "wrong"...until this year.That should tell us something.
ninja himself would tell us that it takes YEARS to judge a draft.
Grades are dependent on scheme, player development, usage, injury.
McKitty ? TBD.
As far as Oline goes, consider this.
We had Aboushi...hindsight.
Meinerz? Who cares if he made a block the other day? He is only playing because of injury.
Jaimes. TBD.
Hot air.
Obsession.
:deadhorse:

[Topcat]

He could have drafted Stevenson-RB, Molden-CB, Browning-LB or Meinerz-OL with the late 3rd Rd pick as well, instead of McKitty.
All 4 of these players ranked higher than McKitty on every draft board. By all accounts, the consensus was that McKitty was not 3rd Rd value. He was 5th-7th Rd value.
while the 4 players above were consensus 3rd Rd value.
As they were listed in nearly every board top 100 prospects.
Some even had Browning, Molden and Meinerz as top 50 prospects.
McKitty was not on anyone's top 100.
Except Telesco.

Tom needs to be released the moment the season is over if not sooner.

Ninja has mock out drafted him every year, and so have some other TPB members and that is not good sign that some draft fanatics on TPB are way better talent evaluators than Telesco and his entire staff.

Yep...the McKitty pick is looking a LOT like the Pip pick...a reach...ugh...

[Riverwalk]

Again….this focus on draft is misguided, IMO. Telesco needs to be more active in FA proven talents than crap shots in later draft round that can take years to develop or busts.

For example….look how well Patriots are doing and Bellichiks FA moves.

Patriots free agent signings 2021

• TE Hunter Henry (3 years, $37.5 million)
• TE Jonnu Smith (4 years, $50 million)
• WR Kendrick Bourne (3 years, $22.5 million)
• WR Nelson Agholor
• OLB Matthew Judon (4 years, $56 million)
• DE Deatrich Wise (re-signed for 4 years, $30 million)
• DT Davon Godchaux (2 years, $16 million)
• DE/DT Henry Anderson (2 years)
• S Jalen Mills (4 years, $24 million)
• DB Justin Bethel (re-signed for 3 years, $6 million)