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[chargeroo]

Can't even tell the players without a scorecard yet and were already trying to guess the final standings.

[dmac_bolt]

Disagree. They got younger at all those positions so there is definitely a question about how quickly the talent will mature, but if not right away, they are setting up Mahomes for a long run of dominance. Reid is a great coach and they are a class franchise so the division will continue to go thru them until further notice.

IMO
1) KC
2) Denver (wild card)

Raiders and Chargers round out the division, but both probably win 8 or 9 games and narrowly miss the playoffs. The division and the entire AFC are just so tough this year. And we lucked out last year without any truly devastating injuries which means we are unfortunately due this year. Refs, bad bounces whatever - add that to the usual mix of which we rarely seem to be the beneficiary of.

You suck and all of your friends suck. Chargers 12-5 and win the tough AFCW

[chargeroo]

Disagree. They got younger at all those positions so there is definitely a question about how quickly the talent will mature, but if not right away, they are setting up Mahomes for a long run of dominance. Reid is a great coach and they are a class franchise so the division will continue to go thru them until further notice.

IMO
1) KC
2) Denver (wild card)

Raiders and Chargers round out the division, but both probably win 8 or 9 games and narrowly miss the playoffs. The division and the entire AFC are just so tough this year. And we lucked out last year without any truly devastating injuries which means we are unfortunately due this year. Refs, bad bounces whatever - add that to the usual mix of which we rarely seem to be the beneficiary of.

You're in the wrong forum, it's the one with all the red in it that you want.

[sonorajim]

Disagree. They got younger at all those positions so there is definitely a question about how quickly the talent will mature, but if not right away, they are setting up Mahomes for a long run of dominance. Reid is a great coach and they are a class franchise so the division will continue to go thru them until further notice.

IMO
1) KC
2) Denver (wild card)

Raiders and Chargers round out the division, but both probably win 8 or 9 games and narrowly miss the playoffs. The division and the entire AFC are just so tough this year. And we lucked out last year without any truly devastating injuries which means we are unfortunately due this year. Refs, bad bounces whatever - add that to the usual mix of which we rarely seem to be the beneficiary of.

??? No one died but we lost our starting RG & RT, Parham had a very scary head injury, RB Justin Jackson was out. The D was blanketed with inj's. DT Justin Jones 6wks Inj, Edge Fackrell 5 wks Inj, LB Kenneth Murray 7 wks IR, Tranquill out 4 wks, Asante Samuel - 6wks, Chris Harris - 4 wks, Adderley - 3 wks, DJ - 3 wks.

ps: Chargers are #1 - easily.

[TexanBeerlover]

Can't even tell the players without a scorecard yet and were already trying to guess the final standings.

Isn’t that soul purpose of message boards

veryourhead:

[powderblueboy]

Disagree. They got younger at all those positions so there is definitely a question about how quickly the talent will mature, but if not right away, they are setting up Mahomes for a long run of dominance. Reid is a great coach and they are a class franchise so the division will continue to go thru them until further notice.

IMO
1) KC
2) Denver (wild card)

Raiders and Chargers round out the division, but both probably win 8 or 9 games and narrowly miss the playoffs. The division and the entire AFC are just so tough this year. And we lucked out last year without any truly devastating injuries which means we are unfortunately due this year. Refs, bad bounces whatever - add that to the usual mix of which we rarely seem to be the beneficiary of.

I'm not interested in projecting two years from now, just this upcoming season.
So what you are essentially saying is that bringing in an inexperienced and unproven rookie is an upgrade over a proven vet in the prime of his career.
Okay, day dream if you like.

Here are your problems:

1. On offense you have no offensive weapons that the Chargers need fear, & you have a running sore at RT in a division of edge rushers.
Chief fans seems to think that Kinnard will amount to a damn there....poor bastards. The entire Chief's roster is filled up with crappy RTs.
The only half way decent RT you have (in a run blocking sense) is at LT, where he's somewhat of a liability there on passing downs.
And its not like the Chiefs bother to run the ball which means you guys wasted a ton of money on his marginal services and Ronald Jones.
And the wishful thinking that your receiver group is more talented this year is really sad: some day, Sky Moore will develop into a good
polished NFL receiver...that won't be this year. You'll be sick of them and pining for Hill again come midseason.


2. On defense, you have no damn edge rushers. Karlaftis? Nope! Who? McDuffie will take some time and his short arms and average/small stature ain't going to be
helpful against the bigger Charger receivers. Chenal would have been great back in the day, but he's so stiff and linear that he will be a huge liability on passing downs.
Are you discussing their limitations on Chief's planet, or is it just one big love fest?

When the Chargers aren't running over your defense, Herbert will sit back and pick his teeth while scanning the field.
Tell me about all those stars in your back 7 that are going to blanket receivers.

IMHO

1. Chargers
2. Denver
3. Chiefs
4. Las Vegas

I put you guys ahead of Las Vegas because of their new coaching staff. Do not feel too comfortable at #3, last time Visor junior got the Broncos off and running quickly his 1rst year before they ran into a ditch.

[Boltx]

I'm not interested in projecting two years from now, just this upcoming season.
So what you are essentially saying is that bringing in an inexperienced and unproven rookie is an upgrade over a proven vet in the prime of his career.
Okay, day dream if you like.

Here are your problems:

1. On offense you have no offensive weapons that the Chargers need fear, & you have a running sore at RT in a division of edge rushers.
Chief fans seems to think that Kinnard will amount to a damn there....poor bastards. The entire Chief's roster is filled up with crappy RTs.
And the wishful thinking that your receiver group is more talented this year is really sad: some day, Sky Moore will develop into a good
polished NFL receiver...that won't be this year. You'll be sick of them and pining for Hill again come midseason.


2. On defense, you have no damn edge rushers. Karlaftis? Nope! Who? McDuffie will take some time and his short arms and average/small stature ain't going to be
helpful against the bigger Charger receivers. Chenal would have been great back in the day, but he's so stiff and linear that he will be a huge liability on passing downs.
Are you discussing their limitations on Chief's planet, or is it just one big love fest?

When the Chargers aren't running over your defense, Herbert will sit back and pick his teeth while scanning the field.
Tell me about all those stars in your back 7 that are going to blanket receivers.

IMHO

1. Chargers
2. Denver
3. Chiefs
4. Las Vegas

I put you guys ahead of Las Vegas because of their new coaching staff. Do not feel too comfortable at #3, last time Visor junior got the Broncos off and running quickly his 1rst year before they ran into a ditch.

Bro, easy with the "you guys" rhetoric, I'm no Chiefs fan. Sorry if I'm not ready to coronate the Bolts yet, but please don't disrespect my fandom. It's no less valid than yours, even if I don't share your homerism right now.

Bottom line, credit where credit is due and KC is tops until someone takes them down. Good teams/organizations find ways to fill holes. Let's see who has done the better job.

[dmac_bolt]

Bro, easy with the "you guys" rhetoric, I'm no Chiefs fan. Sorry if I'm not ready to coronate the Bolts yet, but please don't disrespect my fandom. It's no less valid than yours, even if I don't share your homerism right now.

Bottom line, credit where credit is due and KC is tops until someone takes them down. Good teams/organizations find ways to fill holes. Let's see who has done the better job.

You can get the engraving pen out now. LAC SB!

[Boltx]

You can get the engraving pen out now. LAC SB!

It's been ready for ages...

[equivocation]

??? No one died but we lost our starting RG & RT, Parham had a very scary head injury, RB Justin Jackson was out. The D was blanketed with inj's. DT Justin Jones 6wks Inj, Edge Fackrell 5 wks Inj, LB Kenneth Murray 7 wks IR, Tranquill out 4 wks, Asante Samuel - 6wks, Chris Harris - 4 wks, Adderley - 3 wks, DJ - 3 wks.

ps: Chargers are #1 - easily.

Linval Joseph also really struggled late in the season. Injury or illness or something. Derwin James missed some critical time. That's all stuff that happens in football, but we were only unusually lucky vs our usual injury shitshow, not vs league average.

[sonorajim]

Linval Joseph also really struggled late in the season. Injury or illness or something. Derwin James missed some critical time. That's all stuff that happens in football, but we were only unusually lucky vs our usual injury shitshow, not vs league average.

Losing 2 fifths of the starting OL kinda sucked. RT all year, RG 13 or14 games. I don't think that's normal. It sure got a lot of talk.

[Maniaque 6]

The Chargers have now a better depht at DT and DB.
L. Joseph would be 4th or 5th IDL this year.
D. James injured 4-5 games doesn't scare me this year.