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[Velo]

But...one thing the Chefs fans may be forgetting is that this crime took place in TEXAS...now, let me tell y'all a bit about Texas...my brother was a prison guard in Colorado, a liberal state where they pamper the prisoners...many years ago, Colorado was running out of prison cells for the inmates, and contracted with Texas to provide some relief...for a price, of course...so, my brother and other Colorado CO's escorted a whole bunch of those pampered Colorado inmates to Texas, where they were in for a rude awakening...

Upon arrival at the Texas prison, they lined them up and the head sergeant shouted, "sorry, boys, but y'all ain't in Colo-roddo any more...y'all's here in Texas, and we do things different heah..." Yep, those Colorado guys were shocked to find out a lot of the privileges they had in Colorado were no longer available in Texas...so back to Mr. Rice...I'm afraid he's gonna have to do some time...in Texas they don't take too kindly to these out of state hot dogs causing injury to native Texans...here's some penalties for leaving the scene of an accident in Texas:

What are the Penalties for Failure to Stop and Render Aid?
Failing to stop and render aid (FRSA) accidents are taken very seriously in Texas and can result in significant jail time and hefty fines. The penalties for failing to stop in render aid depend on the severity of the hit and run accident.

• Failure to stop and render aid for accidents involving death is a second-degree felony punishable by 2 to 20 years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine. The penalty for this crime was actually increased by lawmakers in 2013 in an effort to deter people who had been drinking from fleeing the scene of fatal accidents. The new legislation gave failure to stop and render aid involving death the same punitive weight as intoxication manslaughter. Both crimes are both punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
• Failure to stop and render aid in accidents involving serious bodily injury is a third-degree felony, punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
• Failure to stop aid in a crash involving minor injury is punishable by up to five years in prison or confinement in the county jail for not more than a year and up to a $5,000 fine.

If you have been injured in an accident, you should find out what your accident is worth. What is Considered Serious Bodily Injury?

In Texas, serious bodily injury means bodily injury that creates a substantial risk of death or that causes death, serious permanent disfigurement, or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any bodily member or organ.

https://versustexas.com/fort-worth-t...r/hit-and-run/

The arrest affidavit says Rice was driving 119 mph 4.5 seconds before the crash. The Corvette 116 mph. They probably got that info from the computers in the cars. If you drive a new car, be advised a computer is tracking your driving habits, hard braking, rapid acceleration, speed, rolling through stops, etc. In some cases that info is shared with insurance companies to calculate your insurance rates.

[Velo]

Texas is where Clyde Barrow was sodomized repeatedly while in prison as a youth. The guards knew about it and allowed it to happen. Barrow got a hold of a length of pipe and killed his main assaulter by crushing his skull. Barrow is the Clyde of Bonnie and Clyde fame. When he got out of prison he went on a terror and eventually murdered 12 (known), nine of them law enforcement officers, whom he had a vendetta against. His weapon of choice was the BAR, which he would steal from local armories. In 2010 book "Texas Tough..." detailed the brutal history of Texas prisons.

[21&500]

I'm sure I'm not innocent in this but sports changes some of us from unconsciously biased to willfully ignorant.
I say this thinking about my friend and pretty smart guy who is a KC fan, and all his justification for Rice's actions.
I really pretty confident that I and many here would stand by their opinions on him if he wore lightning bolts.
my other guy, absolutely idolized Adrian Peterson, OU alumni, dedicated his LIFE to changing fostercare for the better---suddenly defending the actions of one child-beating SOB.

Insanely wild sometimes.

I say Rice needs some jail time, how much idk, but the biggest crime will be if he escapes any..

[dmac_bolt]

Texas is where Clyde Barrow was sodomized repeatedly while in prison as a youth. The guards knew about it and allowed it to happen. Barrow got a hold of a length of pipe and killed his main assaulter by crushing his skull. Barrow is the Clyde of Bonnie and Clyde fame. When he got out of prison he went on a terror and eventually murdered 12 (known), nine of them law enforcement officers, whom he had a vendetta against. His weapon of choice was the BAR, which he would steal from local armories. In 2010 book "Texas Tough..." detailed the brutal history of Texas prisons.

great story, V-man!

[Topcat]

The arrest affidavit says Rice was driving 119 mph 4.5 seconds before the crash. The Corvette 116 mph. They probably got that info from the computers in the cars. If you drive a new car, be advised a computer is tracking your driving habits, hard braking, rapid acceleration, speed, rolling through stops, etc. In some cases that info is shared with insurance companies to calculate your insurance rates.

If the judge has any sense at all, that crazy top speed should be taken into consideration when Rice gets sentenced...with all the counts against him, I think his career is over...I think he's doing some serious time...if he's lucky, he'll get sent to a prison yard that is level 2, and not a level 4 or 5 with the really violent offenders...

[Topcat]

Texas is where Clyde Barrow was sodomized repeatedly while in prison as a youth. The guards knew about it and allowed it to happen. Barrow got a hold of a length of pipe and killed his main assaulter by crushing his skull. Barrow is the Clyde of Bonnie and Clyde fame. When he got out of prison he went on a terror and eventually murdered 12 (known), nine of them law enforcement officers, whom he had a vendetta against. His weapon of choice was the BAR, which he would steal from local armories. In 2010 book "Texas Tough..." detailed the brutal history of Texas prisons.

All corrections officers (CO's) other staff (medical, teachers) and chaplain volunteers such as myself go through "PREA training" (Prison Rape Elimination Act). We are mandated to report any suspicion of rape, harrassment, etc. However, it's a known fact that in a lot of jails and prisons, there's a lot of consensual sexual stuff going on. Or, maybe the weaker of the two in the cell is intimidated into doing sexual favors and afraid to report it. At the jail, I many times pass by a 2-man cell, and the window on the door is totally blocked by a paper or cardboard. When I brought this up to a sergeant, he said, "well, they're not supposed to do that." Then, no action is taken. In other words, "don't ask, don't tell."

[Velo]

If the judge has any sense at all, that crazy top speed should be taken into consideration when Rice gets sentenced...with all the counts against him, I think his career is over...I think he's doing some serious time...if he's lucky, he'll get sent to a prison yard that is level 2, and not a level 4 or 5 with the really violent offenders...

The excessive speed and total disregard for the safety of anybody else on the freeway is one of the most egregious aspects of this incident. But leaving the scene, presumably because they were under the influence of some substance, whether that be alcohol or..., is to me why the deserve the most severe punishment. They can't let these guys make leaving the scene work to their benefit. I think the prosecuting authorities will not be inclined to plea down very much, they will press for pleas on every count, or prosecute on every count, to send a message that leaving the scene if you've had an accident while DUI does not work out in your favor. There are already people out there who are viewing Rice as some sort of victim in all this because of the charges filed against him. They think all he is guilty of is a simple hit and run accident and should be offered a chance to plead to misdemeanor charges with no jail or prison time and a two game suspension by the NFL.

[21&500]

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/rashee-rice-dallas-accident-conference/

Royce West also happens to be a State Senate for Texas.
how is that even ethical?

[chargeroo]

If the judge has any sense at all, that crazy top speed should be taken into consideration when Rice gets sentenced...with all the counts against him, I think his career is over...I think he's doing some serious time...if he's lucky, he'll get sent to a prison yard that is level 2, and not a level 4 or 5 with the really violent offenders...

I never knew they had different levels of prison yards. I'm almost 89 years old now and I still learn new things all the time.

[Topcat]

I never knew they had different levels of prison yards. I'm almost 89 years old now and I still learn new things all the time.

Yes, it's all to reduce the amount of violence due to gang warfare or certain inmates whose crimes make them targets (child molesters, convicted policemen, etc.). In the jails, they routinely keep the Hispanic Northerners and Southerners separated or else there would be fights much more often. Gang dropouts are also kept totally separate from active gang members, whether Northerners or Southerners (Nortenos and Surenos). The good news is that many inmates are coming to God both in the jails and in our prisons. So, I feel that there is hope at least for some people, whether they are released or not.

[chargeroo]

Yes, it's all to reduce the amount of violence due to gang warfare or certain inmates whose crimes make them targets (child molesters, convicted policemen, etc.). In the jails, they routinely keep the Hispanic Northerners and Southerners separated or else there would be fights much more often. Gang dropouts are also kept totally separate from active gang members, whether Northerners or Southerners (Nortenos and Surenos). The good news is that many inmates are coming to God both in the jails and in our prisons. So, I feel that there is hope at least for some people, whether they are released or not.

Thanks for sharing that.

[Velo]

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/r...nt-conference/

Royce West also happens to be a State Senate for Texas.
how is that even ethical?

He's a defense attorney. I don't see the conflict. He doesn't work for the prosecuting jurisdiction. He's an elected lawmaker.