Defensive and Offensive Line Improvements?

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  • Topcat
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    #37
    Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

    Scherff is an oft-injured player coming into a money year. Hard pass.
    Graham Glasgow is the IOL that should be a FA target.
    Don't want habitually damaged goods. Especially EXPENSIVE habitually damaged goods. Pass...

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    • Bolt4Knob
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      #38
      I don't care who the OL or DT are that Telesco adds. I just want the players signed for the OL to fit the scheme. I just remember the Dunlap, Franklin, Fluker thing and it was a bunch of big dudes - too big. No athleticism. Like Telesco and McCoy had zero vision.

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      • Steve
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        #39
        There is a limit to how picky you can get trying to sign FA. It is a case of buying what is available, which is all second hand goods. If the player was any good, they wouldn't be a FA. You have to overpay for damaged goods is just the reality of what you are going to get in FA. It is even more so for OL than other positions.

        Schreff is one of the top OG in football. He will only be available because the Redskins haven't thrown money at him because of his injuries. He may not resign with Washington because of the Trent Williams thing, although now that Rivera is firing the medical staff, and cleaning house in the front office, they might be able to get rid of enough of the people the OL doesn't like to keep Williams and Schreff.

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        • Boltgang74
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          #40
          Originally posted by Steve View Post
          There is a limit to how picky you can get trying to sign FA. It is a case of buying what is available, which is all second hand goods. If the player was any good, they wouldn't be a FA.
          Or cap hits and money

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          • Steve
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            #41
            Originally posted by Topcat View Post

            Don't want habitually damaged goods. Especially EXPENSIVE habitually damaged goods. Pass...
            So you don't want to sign FA OL?

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            • Steve
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              #42
              AS far as the DL goes, we have spent a lot of draft capital at DT the last 2 years, they will probably give Jones and Tillery a chance to develop some.

              It's not that we don't need improvements at DL, but potentially the help is there, if it develops. And we don't have enough capital to fill all the holes we will have.

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              • Boltgang74
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                #43
                If they refuse to draft a NT they need to get one in free agency.JJ and Till aint it.

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                • Sb4Rivers
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                  #44
                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  Disagree with you on this one. Melvin had a very high win rate vs blockers. Tillery flashed the final four games. At little more juice and we are there. Our motto should be Beyond PFF...
                  What is a flash? Did you watch vikes 39 - Chargers 10 game. It’s like I tell my 4y old - It’s not about being good one time a day, it’s about being good all day.

                  We need a NT that allows a great 3 man rush and the alto send James as a blitzer or a fast LB at any time.

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                  • Sb4Rivers
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                    #45
                    Can anyone say Sue was available a while back

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by Sb4Rivers View Post

                      What is a flash? Did you watch vikes 39 - Chargers 10 game. It’s like I tell my 4y old - It’s not about being good one time a day, it’s about being good all day.

                      We need a NT that allows a great 3 man rush and the alto send James as a blitzer or a fast LB at any time.
                      Means he is a developing rookie who is flashing his ability and be better next season and the season after that. The game slows down for those getting better. Surely you have heard this before?
                      Last edited by Boltjolt; 01-05-2020, 02:59 PM.

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                      • Steve
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                        #47
                        If we spend a 1st round pick on a NT, then there are a lot of other positions that will be using late round picks on. Like OL, CB, LB.....maybe QB...….

                        I am not sure it is the best use of our draft capital to use an early round pick on a NT.

                        And before we get too focused on big mamo-jama type guys, lets remember that Danny Shelton got his ass kicked around by Ben Jones on mostly single blocking. When he was doubled, it looked like he was on roller skates. We need players who are good run defenders, not just big. Plenty of little quick 3 tech players blow up plays in the backfield and stop running teams cold. We just need good players.

                        In any case, the NT is not going to help much in terms of pass rush. The NT is not going to be playing that much. if they do their job and stuff the run, then we can bring in DE types to be inside pass rushers and those guys will help free up Bosa and the other DE.

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Steve View Post
                          If we spend a 1st round pick on a NT, then there are a lot of other positions that will be using late round picks on. Like OL, CB, LB.....maybe QB...….

                          I am not sure it is the best use of our draft capital to use an early round pick on a NT.

                          And before we get too focused on big mamo-jama type guys, lets remember that Danny Shelton got his ass kicked around by Ben Jones on mostly single blocking. When he was doubled, it looked like he was on roller skates. We need players who are good run defenders, not just big. Plenty of little quick 3 tech players blow up plays in the backfield and stop running teams cold. We just need good players.

                          In any case, the NT is not going to help much in terms of pass rush. The NT is not going to be playing that much. if they do their job and stuff the run, then we can bring in DE types to be inside pass rushers and those guys will help free up Bosa and the other DE.
                          Say it isn't so?

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