POLL: Should The Bolts Trade Up For Tua?

[Topcat]

This!..... he is way too good to pass on and the Chargers really need someone great to lead them...... if AL wants to run him like Balt does with jackson, then fire Lynn and more a coach whop knows how to use a talented passing QB........Burrow and Tua are the ONLY Elite passing QB's in this draft ..... all the others have major issues like most college QB's most years.....

Let's put it another way...when you're shopping for a car, do you spend a reasonable amount of cash for a nice, dependable Camry, or do you spend a bundle and go into debt for a Ferrari, which when running properly, runs great, but has been in the shop multiple times, is high maintenance, and will probably be in the shop frequently in the future? Very high risk stakes here...trade up for someone like Burrow, if possible...yes...Tua...no...

[Maniaque 6]

I see Tua more like a Jetta !

[Charge!]

I was for it a couple weeks ago, but rather save the picks and take Brown/Simmons/Okudah/even Herbie if he’s still there (but he won’t be).

Are you saying that you no longer think we need an elite QB to compete with the chiefs????? Problem is if we dont trade up we are not getting one of the only 2 elite passing QB's in the draft.... all of the other QB's including Hebert have major flaws in accuracy and decision making..... drafting Brown or Okudah will not help us beat the chiefs uniess we have an elite QB to score over 30 points.....

I would bring up the 49ers as proof that no defense can shut down the chiefs, so the ONLY way to beat them is to out-score them with a great offense...... and a great QB...... we are not going to out-score anyone with Taylor at QB....... our only win against chiefs came because we scored and gambled on a 2 pointer to out score them..... Reid has built the perfect offense to take advantage of todays offensive oriented rules......

[Topcat]

Are you saying that you no longer think we need an elite QB to compete with the chiefs????? Problem is if we dont trade up we are not getting one of the only 2 elite passing QB's in the draft.... all of the other QB's including Hebert have major flaws in accuracy and decision making..... drafting Brown or Okudah will not help us beat the chiefs uniess we have an elite QB to score over 30 points.....

I would bring up the 49ers as proof that no defense can shut down the chiefs, so the ONLY way to beat them is to out-score them with a great offense...... and a great QB...... we are not going to out-score anyone with Taylor at QB....... our only win against chiefs came because we scored and gambled on a 2 pointer to out score them..... Reid has built the perfect offense to take advantage of todays offensive oriented rules......

Instead of worrying about the Chefs, maybe the best thing is to bolster our O-line, DT, CB, LB's, get a solid WR and RB, and hope somehow the Chefs stumble...a lot can happen...injuries, suspensions, locker room cancer, etc.

[Charge!]

Let's put it another way...when you're shopping for a car, do you spend a reasonable amount of cash for a nice, dependable Camry, or do you spend a bundle and go into debt for a Ferrari, which when running properly, runs great, but has been in the shop multiple times, is high maintenance, and will probably be in the shop frequently in the future? Very high risk stakes here...trade up for someone like Burrow, if possible...yes...Tua...no...

The worst possible example........ and you know it..... lol........apples and oranges......

A 500 dollar clunker of a car can get you from point a to b..... an old gun made in the 1800's can still kill someone if you shoot them in the head just as easily as a dirty harry .44 magnum......

in the NFL you absolutely need to, and should, go into debt if necessary so it does the same functional job as a ferrari...... unless you need to win a race...then you need to mortgage future and buy the expensive sports/race car........

Chargers NEED to get an elite QB.... otherwise you are wasting your time and never will get a championship...... fact is most of the SB's in history were won by ELITE QB's.........

[Maniaque 6]

If the 49ers keep the ball on the ground in the 4th, they would have beaten the Chiefs.
Last Superbowl, the NE defense have muzzled the dangerous Rams attack.
It's no more true that defense wins championship ?

[Charge!]

Instead of worrying about the Chefs, maybe the best thing is to bolster our O-line, DT, CB, LB's, get a solid WR and RB, and hope somehow the Chefs stumble...a lot can happen...injuries, suspensions, locker room cancer, etc.

that makes no sense..... you dont wait for the other teams to stumble of become so inept that you can beat them without a QB?????...... that makes zero sense......

and absolutely our priority is to win division, and in order to win division we must beat the chiefs........

The 49ers have an elite OL and an elite DL and they could not beat the chiefs because their QB was not elite........

[Charge!]

If the 49ers keep the ball on the ground in the 4th, they would have beaten the Chiefs.
Last Superbowl, the NE defense have muzzled the dangerous Rams attack.
It's no more true that defense wins championship ?

sorry but that is not true..... Defense does not win championships.... defense se keeps you in the game..... defense keeps the games close enough for an elite QB to win you the game..... look at SB history........ look at the QB's....... and elite QB's are the only way to repeat as champions or contenders.....

[Topcat]

that makes no sense..... you dont wait for the other teams to stumble of become so inept that you can beat them without a QB?????...... that makes zero sense......

and absolutely our priority is to win division, and in order to win division we must beat the chiefs........

The 49ers have an elite OL and an elite DL and they could not beat the chiefs because their QB was not elite........

My point is, you don't reach for a QB @6 who has some serious red flags or question marks. You build your team with mostly BPA...and if we build the team right, we give ourselves the best chance of being competitive...imagine what a game changer it would be to have Simmons lining up in the box next to Derwin...rather have him @6 than reach for a gimpy QB or a raw QB with question marks...

[gzubeck]

My point is, you don't reach for a QB @6 who has some serious red flags or question marks. You build your team with mostly BPA...and if we build the team right, we give ourselves the best chance of being competitive...imagine what a game changer it would be to have Simmons lining up in the box next to Derwin...rather have him @6 than reach for a gimpy QB or a raw QB with question marks...

this... a lot of play-makers on defense gets you turnovers especially on the oppositions side of the 50. That will win you a ton of games and actually make the chargers exciting again. We can get competent QB play if we fix the oline and maintain RB talent which helps any QB tremendously.

[wu-dai clan]

There's been a lot of talk about the possibility of the Bolts, in need of a QB, trading up for Tua. While there's no doubting Tua's talent, when you look at his injury history, and especially that last serious hip injury, it's several red flags following by a BIG red flag. Look at all of Tua's injuries so far:

March 2018: Tua Tagovailoa breaks his finger

October 2018: Tua Tagovailoa suffers knee injury

November 2018: Quad injury keeps Tua out of a game

December 2018: Tua Tagovailoa injures his left ankle

Against Tennessee, Tua Tagovailoa suffers another ankle injury

November, 2019: Tagovailoa suffered a dislocated hip with a posterior wall fracture

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ne/4064454002/

On that last injury, there's more cause for concern:

"It’s the potential complications that make predicting a complete or full recovery back to pre-injury conditions difficult to determine at the moment.

“The thing that makes it uncertain is that when the hip dislocates and it fractures off part of the cup part of the hip joint,” Lowe explained Saturday, “(and) sometimes it disrupts the blood supply to the end of the femur — the lower leg part of the hip joint.”

That is what is called avascular necrosis (AVN) and is what forced legendary Auburn running back Bo Jackson to retire from both football and baseball in the early 1990s, and eventually led to severe arthritis and the need for a hip replacement at the age of 29."

Sorry, Tua looks like damaged goods to me, with a high likelihood of injury in the future.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ma/4234279002/

The most current medical report is very optimistic.

You know that, and have irresponsibly left that out here.

Of course there is some cause for concern, which is why TT will be diligent.

[MakoShark]

Accuracy? Completion percentage, sure...but ball placement is only "good"...a lot of receivers reaching over their back shoulder to pull in some throws...and he had great hands on his teams. Not as "accurate" as some people think...watch the film...
Ability? No rocket arm there, and I don't see him as an athletic runner anymore...why do people think he has a great arm...his deep ball resume is anemic...don't see a ton of touch throws either...
Size-You didn't list this one. He is small...that can be overcome, but by him? I don't know...he has a lot of injury miles already, and just coming out of college.

Don't get me wrong...a warrior, and I don't question his mettle or leadership...but tough? He didn't hold up in college, how will he do in the pros...mentally tough, yes...physically? Only so much he can play thru...prefer a guy who isn't playing thru anything...

All of this. Don't let your judgement get clouded by where he played and who he played for.