POLL: Should The Bolts Trade Up For Tua?

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  • wu-dai clan
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    • May 2017
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    #25
    Arm strength gets conflated with arm talent.

    The only issue with Tua is health...c'mon man.

    Screw this.
    Screw everything.
    Screw everyone.

    I'll just take James Morgan in round 6.
    Get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
    Ben Herbert

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    • Topcat
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      #26
      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

      The most current medical report is very optimistic.

      You know that, and have irresponsibly left that out here.

      Of course there is some cause for concern, which is why TT will be diligent.

      The most recent report I found on this is in January. Even though Tua is expected to make a recovery, that hip injury is something that may be a problem in the future:

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      • wu-dai clan
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        #27
        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

        The most recent report I found on this is in January. Even though Tua is expected to make a recovery, that hip injury is something that may be a problem in the future:

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        https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...01wbe5vxhdmk4g
        Since January, there have been very positive updates from medical professionals,
        with access to the intel.

        I remind people that I received crickets
        when I did some research
        and talked about Ryan Ramczyk's hip.

        The truth will set you free.
        Get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
        Ben Herbert

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        • Topcat
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          #28
          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

          Since January, there have been very positive updates from medical professionals,
          with access to the intel.

          I remind people that I received crickets
          when I did some research
          and talked about Ryan Ramczyk's hip.

          The truth will set you free.
          Well, there is this from yesterday's Bleacher Report:

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          NFL draft prospect Tua Tagovailoa reportedly has not experienced a loss of blood flow in his previously injured hip.  Ian Rapoport of NFL.com reported the news, noting the Alabama product's broken hip has healed...


          We shall continue monitoring his progress as we get closer to the combine and draft.

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          • rikardo
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            #29
            IMO Tua is the best QB in this year's draft.
            Trade only If we can save our 2nd rounder
            Try to trade a 1st and 4th (But pretty sure Det will ask for a 1st and a 3rd at least and that is the highest price I would pay)
            Wash drafts Young I can see Det trading down and still drafting Def LB & CB at #6 (everyone wins)

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            • Topcat
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              #30
              Originally posted by rikardo View Post
              IMO Tua is the best QB in this year's draft.
              Trade only If we can save our 2nd rounder
              Try to trade a 1st and 4th (But pretty sure Det will ask for a 1st and a 3rd at least and that is the highest price I would pay)
              Wash drafts Young I can see Det trading down and still drafting Def LB & CB at #6 (everyone wins)
              Here's my fear with Tua: We pick him at #6, or worse, we give up a couple of high picks to move up for him, then he gets hurt early on. Then, after a long rehab, he comes back, plays well for a few games, then gets hurt again. Kind of like Lamp, yet there were no injury red flags with Lamp. But there are MULTIPLE injury red flags with Tua. Sorry...PASS...

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              • Charge!
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                #31
                Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                Here's my fear with Tua: We pick him at #6, or worse, we give up a couple of high picks to move up for him, then he gets hurt early on. Then, after a long rehab, he comes back, plays well for a few games, then gets hurt again. Kind of like Lamp, yet there were no injury red flags with Lamp. But there are MULTIPLE injury red flags with Tua. Sorry...PASS...
                lol...... there are QB's you might compare Tua to, but cant do it with Lamp......nop one ever thought of lamp as best player in draft when healthy...... Tua was that for 2 years....... he is elite..... only question is injury history.....which I agree is a valid concern...... but you are talking about an elite player, not an iffy 2nd round draft choice...... if you are going to gamble on an injured player, at least gamble on an elite one...... Leslie O'Neil was Elite with serious injury........ and still had a great career......

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                • Topcat
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                  #32
                  Originally posted by Charge! View Post

                  lol...... there are QB's you might compare Tua to, but cant do it with Lamp......nop one ever thought of lamp as best player in draft when healthy...... Tua was that for 2 years....... he is elite..... only question is injury history.....which I agree is a valid concern...... but you are talking about an elite player, not an iffy 2nd round draft choice...... if you are going to gamble on an injured player, at least gamble on an elite one...... Leslie O'Neil was Elite with serious injury........ and still had a great career......
                  All the more reason to not take a gamble at #6, or higher, if we trade up...for example, we DID take KA in round 3 when he was rehabbing from a serious injury...he was projected as a first rounder before the injury, but his stock fell, and the Bolts reasoned he was worth the risk in round 3...turned out pretty good for us, even though KA missed about half the season in 2015 and just about all of 2016...but at #6, we need to get this right, or we'll be kicking ourselves for years...

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                  • WindsorUK
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                    • Jul 2013
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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                    There's been a lot of talk about the possibility of the Bolts, in need of a QB, trading up for Tua. While there's no doubting Tua's talent, when you look at his injury history, and especially that last serious hip injury, it's several red flags following by a BIG red flag. Look at all of Tua's injuries so far:

                    March 2018: Tua Tagovailoa breaks his finger

                    October 2018: Tua Tagovailoa suffers knee injury

                    November 2018: Quad injury keeps Tua out of a game

                    December 2018: Tua Tagovailoa injures his left ankle

                    Against Tennessee, Tua Tagovailoa suffers another ankle injury


                    November, 2019: Tagovailoa suffered a dislocated hip with a posterior wall fracture

                    https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ne/4064454002/

                    On that last injury, there's more cause for concern:

                    "It’s the potential complications that make predicting a complete or full recovery back to pre-injury conditions difficult to determine at the moment.

                    “The thing that makes it uncertain is that when the hip dislocates and it fractures off part of the cup part of the hip joint,” Lowe explained Saturday, “(and) sometimes it disrupts the blood supply to the end of the femur — the lower leg part of the hip joint.”

                    That is what is called avascular necrosis (AVN) and is what forced legendary Auburn running back Bo Jackson to retire from both football and baseball in the early 1990s, and eventually led to severe arthritis and the need for a hip replacement at the age of 29."


                    Sorry, Tua looks like damaged goods to me, with a high likelihood of injury in the future.

                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ma/4234279002/
                    Uh.....HELL NO!

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                    • Boltsfan70
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                      • Jun 2013
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                      #34
                      I am in favor of staying put or trading back enough talent at the top of the draft.

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                      • powderblueboy
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                        #35
                        Slight, to the tune of 6 feet, 217 pounds & with an injury history.....he's not a speedster, nor slippery like Russell Wilson.

                        Frankly, i'm not thrilled enough about him as a passer to take the gamble...not with the few studs they would pass on to get him.

                        And i'm talking about pick #6,

                        Hell no, don't trade up!

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                        • pigskin
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                          • Jun 2013
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                          #36
                          If Tua is there at 6 great, draft him, unless Simmons is there also. Otherwise go with the best rated OT on the board.

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