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  • like54ninjas
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    Sure, trade them Tyrod, Tevi and a 2nd
    Let’s make this trade yesterday!
    Then Simmons at #6.
    So much for a cheap QB contract going forward though.
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    • Kingcrimson
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      Anyone see Tua’s twitter post? Footwork looks pretty good to me. we can sit him behind Taylor for most the year.

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      • 21&500
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        Originally posted by Kingcrimson View Post
        Anyone see Tua’s twitter post? Footwork looks pretty good to me. we can sit him behind Taylor for most the year.
        Computer Graphics
        he’s broken
        Gimmie Bower Power!!

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        • Boltjolt
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          Originally posted by Kingcrimson View Post
          Anyone see Tua’s twitter post? Footwork looks pretty good to me. we can sit him behind Taylor for most the year.
          Til he gets hit
          11 Brock Bowers TE - Georgia (plus AZ 2025 1st)
          35 Kris Jenkins DT - Michigan
          37 Cooper Beebe OG -Kansas st
          66 Mike Sainristil CB - Michigan
          69 Jaylen Wright RB - Tenn or Blake Corum - Michigan
          100 Brenden Rice WR - USC (trade ⬆️w/ Wash for 2025 5th)
          110 Cedric Gray LB - N. Carolina
          140 Hunter Nourzad OC -Penn st
          181 Jarrian Jones CB - Florida st
          225 Cedrick Johnson Edge - Ol' Miss ➡️ 253 Fabien Lovett DT-FL st

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          • richpjr
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            Daniel Jeremiah's takes on the QBs fit by team:

            2020 NFL Draft: Quarterback-team fits after free agency frenzy

            By Daniel Jeremiah​​​​​​
            Published: March 23, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.

            The first wave of NFL free agency truly reshuffled the league deck, with the quarterback position -- per usual -- playing a leading role. Tom Brady's a Buccaneer, Philip Rivers is a Colt, Teddy Bridgewater's a Panther, Nick Foles is a Bear and Marcus Mariota's a Raider. So, what's next at the game's most important position?

            Now that the dust is settling on the frenzied portion of free agency, I'm thinking about possible homes for the top quarterbacks in the 2020 NFL Draft. Who fits where? Feels like a perfect time to explore prospect-team pairings.

            Before I play matchmaker, though, I want to address one team that you won't find attached to a QB below: the New England Patriots. Obviously, everyone's wondering how New England will replace Brady. But personally, I don't see Bill Belichick and Co. drafting a QB early. I've been told the Pats are very high on Jarrett Stidham, expecting the 2019 fourth-rounder to be their guy next season and into the foreseeable future.

            So, with that out of the way, let's get to some hypothetical marriages that would make plenty of sense:

            Joe Burrow, LSU NFL team fit: Cincinnati Bengals
            The Bengals are poised to land Andy Dalton's replacement in the 2020 NFL Draft. All signs continue to point to Burrow. A couple months back, there were rumors and chatter about Burrow potentially trying to persuade the Bengals to avoid picking him. I can't see that happening. He is a perfect fit for Zac Taylor's offense and his leadership will be essential in turning around the organization.

            One thing to keep in mind: I won't be surprised if the Bengals ultimately decide to hold onto Dalton. Seeing how COVID-19 figures to have a significant impact on the NFL offseason, Dalton's presence would allow the Bengals to avoid rushing Burrow onto the playing field before he's comfortable in his new setting.

            Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama NFL team fit: Miami Dolphins
            The Dolphins were very aggressive in free agency, addressing several needs on their roster. One area they didn't address: quarterback. Bucky Brooks and I had a good chat with Dolphins GM Chris Grier during the NFL Scouting Combine. He mentioned to us that his player personnel staff had spent time studying the QB crop in the 2021 class, as well as the current one. This led us to believe there was an outside chance they could address other needs in this year's draft and pursue their signal-caller in next year's class. Scratch that theory off the list. They've greatly improved their roster with an aggressive free agency approach that will likely take them out of the running for a top pick in the 2021 draft.

            I've been told by trusted personnel sources around the league that the Dolphins have strong grades on Burrow, Tagovailoa and Justin Herbert. I could see them attempting to move up for Burrow, but I seriously doubt the Bengals will trade the top pick. It's not hard to imagine the Fins making a move up to the No. 3 slot in order to land their preferred choice between Tagovailoa and Herbert. However, I'm not certain which player will top their list. I'll stick with Tagovailoa under the assumption the Dolphins are comfortable with his recovery from hip surgery.

            Justin Herbert, Oregon NFL team fit: Los Angeles Chargers
            The Chargers made a strong play for Tom Brady, but ultimately lost out to Tampa Bay last week. There have been credible reports -- including one from NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport -- that the Bolts will not pursue any other veteran options (Cam Newton and Jameis Winston are still available) at this time. Head coach Anthony Lynn has a strong affection for Tyrod Taylor, after their experience together in Buffalo. He appears to be the bridge QB to whomever they select in the upcoming draft.

            Tagovailoa would be the home run selection, if he were to fall to the Chargers at No. 6. I won't be surprised if Los Angeles looks to aggressively move up and snag the Alabama product. However, here's the problem: If the Bolts get into a bidding war with the Dolphins, Miami has considerably more ammo (draft currency). Herbert would seem to be the most likely option if L.A. sits and picks at 6. He could sit behind Taylor until he's ready to go, either later in the 2020 season or at the beginning of the 2021 campaign. Jordan Love, Utah State NFL team fit: Green Bay Packers

            I won't be shocked if Love goes in the top 10. I also won't be surprised if he falls to the bottom of the first round. Grades are all over the place on the Utah State product. He is the most talented natural thrower in the entire draft. However, due to a variety of circumstances (losing a number of starters, dealing with a new coaching staff and scheme, etc.) his play dramatically fell off this past season. He will need some time to sit and develop, but the payoff could be huge.

            Prior to free agency, I felt like his sweet spot was between Pick Nos. 7 and 14. Things have changed since then. The Panthers, picking seventh, have signed Teddy Bridgewater and appear set at the position for the next few years. The Colts, initially picking 13th, traded their top selection to the 49ers for DL DeForest Buckner. That takes another potential landing spot off the table. The Bucs, picking 14th, signed Tom Brady. Logically, signing a soon-to-be 43-year-old QB shouldn't preclude anyone from taking another signal-caller in the first round. However, you don't sign Brady without making an all-out effort to chase a championship in the next two years. Plus, there's an intriguing option that likely won't cost them a first-round selection (see below). That's why I think there's a good chance Love could begin to slide.

            Enter the Packers, currently holding the No. 30 pick. Aaron Rodgers is still playing at an elite level. That said, he's 36 years old and there has been some minor slippage in his performance. Green Bay has been blessed to have stability at the position for nearly three decades with Rodgers and Brett Favre. If a talented player like Love slides to the Pack, I think they will pull the trigger and take their time developing Rodgers' eventual replacement. This could lead to another 15-plus years of stability at the position.

            Jacob Eason, Washington NFL team fit: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
            As I mentioned above, the Bucs won the Tom Brady sweepstakes in free agency. For this reason, I believe they will give him some help (likely on the defensive side of the ball) in the first round. However, I could see them targeting a quarterback in the second round to eventually take over for Brady. Everyone I've spoken to about Eason believes he'll end up in Tampa Bay. His big arm is a great fit for Bruce Arians' offense and he would be afforded the luxury of time to develop behind Brady. In a perfect world, Eason would sit for two seasons before Brady retires and hands him the reins to the offense.

            Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma NFL team fit: Las Vegas Raiders
            Hurts is the one quarterback who keeps me up at night. He still has some improvement to make as a passer -- mostly, his ability to throw with anticipation -- but there's a lot to like in this prospect, both as a player and as a competitor. He has the arm strength to make every throw on the field. He can extend plays with his legs and create big plays both throwing and running. He is very smart and his competitive spirit is outstanding. He embodies a lot of what the Raiders have tried to build since Mike Mayock took over as general manager.

            The Raiders made an interesting acquisition when they inked Marcus Mariota to a deal in free agency. They made it clear to Mariota that he was coming in as the No. 2 quarterback. He'll have a chance to revitalize his career if Derek Carr takes a step back this fall. However, I still expect Las Vegas to bring in a quarterback in the draft. Hurts will likely go in the second round. The Raiders don't currently own a second-round pick, but I could see them trading out of one of their first-round selections to secure more draft capital.

            Jake Fromm, Georgia NFL team fit: New Orleans Saints
            Fromm is a fascinating evaluation. He doesn't possess a huge arm or special athleticism. His statistics don't jump off the page, but he won a bunch of games at Georgia. He's lauded for his intelligence and leadership. I asked a handful of teams which quarterback was the most impressive in their combine interview and every single one of them mentioned Fromm at or near the top of the list. His physical limitations will limit the number of teams interested in him, but I believe someone will fall in love and take him in the second or third round.

            I would love to see him sit and learn behind Drew Brees in New Orleans. Sean Payton has always valued the strengths in a quarterback like Fromm -- smarts, accuracy and decision-making. If not the Saints, I could see the Colts or Raiders being a good landing spot for the Georgia product.

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            • Lone Bolt
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              Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

              eye can only hope we end up w/a franchise OT, and.... hoping that's Wirfs.

              the risk factor is monumental w/Tua, and still a large consideration w/Herbert.

              eye understand the Simmons pick, and.... not sure it elevates us to the levels some here suspect/wish for ??
              You think an OL is going to elevate us to some level...elite maybe? Oline is a smart, PON pick...but you aren't listening. We don't have a fan base. I think it's down to just us on the Powder Blues...LOL.
              I'm saying it makes sense to be brave, and make the selection, to take a swing at landing the next great, famous, and popular signal caller in this league. It is about winning, but it is also a lot about reinventing the identity of this team. People aren't going to come see Wirfs, or buy a Thomas jersey. We are talking reality here.

              Hell, Wirfs may not even start this year, on this line. (Forget your fantasy about moving him inside for awhile) So you are gonna spend a 6 on a boring player, who may not even play this year, all while you are moving into your new stadium?

              Maybe...just maybe, if Lynn has got TT talked into Jalen Hurts, I could see the move. Hurts has a good following, might be very successful in a system designed around his strengths early in his career...he is gonna sell some jerseys, attract some fans...

              But still...you are missing the point. Tua is as big a figure in football as there is right now...even bigger than Burrow... (everyone knows where Joe is going). What reason do you think the Chargers had for going after Brady? Winning a SB? TT and coach saw the same thing we did...Brady is way past his prime, and is no longer a top 5 QB...maybe not even top 10. Brady was about filling stands, selling jerseys, and building the fan base going into the new stadium....he might have got us some wins, a playoff appearance...but it was all about going into that new stadium with a bang...the nation's eyes on the Chargers and their new digs and new rags...

              Wirfs is my favorite olineman...love Simmons...and am an underdog fan of Justing Herbert...and I too am a little scared of Tua's health issues (but only a little, I think the hip was a freak accident)...but when trying to accurately predict what the Chargers should and will do, it's obvious. Tua...and probably by trading up. Best steel yourselves for it...

              The TPB makes plans....And Jim Harbaugh laughs...

              Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB, Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT

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              • blueman
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                This. ^

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                • JOJAX85
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                  Cam set to be released today. If his agent calls I hope we answer the phone as a men's clothing store. They will hang up.

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                  • like54ninjas
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                    Originally posted by JOJAX85 View Post
                    Cam set to be released today. If his agent calls I hope we answer the phone as a men's clothing store. They will hang up.
                    “Hi. Thanks for calling Thornton Melon’s Tall & Fat. This is Dean. How can I help you?”
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                    • PR#1
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                      Originally posted by JOJAX85 View Post
                      Cam set to be released today. If his agent calls I hope we answer the phone as a men's clothing store. They will hang up.
                      There should be a press release later today.

                      Cam Newton signs 1 year 10M deal with LAC !!!

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                      • JOJAX85
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                        Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                        “Hi. Thanks for calling Thornton Melon’s Tall & Fat. This is Dean. How can I help you?”
                        "No, you may want to try our sister company the Jacksonville Meeeeeooooww Boutique."

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                        • Kingcrimson
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                          Well I hate the thought of Cam Newton. Never an accurate passer. I think he’s physically broken. But to get some fans/ media attention.. he’s the next best thing to Brady.

                          He has a lower floor than Taylor, but also a higher ceiling. I have no idea how I feel if we got him.

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