Justin Herbert - Bolts Franchise QB Official Discussion

[like54ninjas]

Herbert Bucket would include all things Herbert.

example: 13 AV. Rookie Season. Average Value Draft grade measures equity draft slot vs actual production compared to his peers. Each season, as he progresses that number should increase, towards the goat, Brady, #1 all time NFL value metric that will probably never be equaled (drafted 5th rd.).

TB12 was a 6th rounder/pick#199.

Herbie Bucket play on Kirby Pucket?

[TexanBeerlover]

By time Herbert finished his bucket will be more full than empty.

Don’t know why I thought Brady was a 5th rounder, obviously a 6th lol

[Xenos]

https://www.chargers.com/news/justin-herbert-quarterback-improved-2021

Herbert said there's "a ton" he's focused on improving, from drops and footwork to having a better feel in the pocket. In addition to mastering the offensive playbook, Herbert pointed to defensive recognition as another element of the game he's working to get better at.

That's where Staley's D has delivered.

"All of the defensive looks that they have — they hold their disguise so well and they're always showing [coverage] shell," Herbert said. "It puts the offense in a tough position because everything looks the same and you're not really able to pick up where the pressure is coming from, where to slide to and who to point. Just seeing all of that, it doesn't get much more complicated than that, so I have really appreciated that."

[dmac_bolt]

Peaches and Herbie

[like54ninjas]

[Topcat]

Herbie...

[Boltjolt]

Kind of a dumb stat. If Tua has that many yards I'd be surprised. I think he struggles again without Fitz to mentor. I forget what other QBs they have.

[CivilBolt]

Kind of a dumb stat. If Tua has that many yards I'd be surprised. I think he struggles again without Fitz to mentor. I forget what other QBs they have.

Same here. I bet you he doesn’t eclipse 4k yards.

[Topcat]

Same here. I bet you he doesn’t eclipse 4k yards.

Tua...my guess:

13 games...injured in 4...
3300 yds.
19 TD's
13 picks
sacked 34 times...

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

All I can say about the numbers projected for Tua is "What?!?"

Not unless Miami's pass receivers set an NFL record for Yards After Catch.

If anything, Tua's strength should be in distributing the ball and keeping the play alive with his mobility. His game isn't about the Deep Ball, and the kind of numbers the Deep Ball racks up.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Herbie...

You know, if the Chargers and Bengals swapped QBs, I don't think either team would be getting a "better talent".

But last year, Burrow lived up to the lofty expectations placed on him, at least until he got injured, while Herbert far exceeded the expectations he experienced while performing at or above the level Burrow did.

Herb prospered after being unexpectedly being thrown in, and while he made some mistakes, he almost NEVER repeated them.

And he accomplished what he did behind a horrible O-line.

So I like the narrative that's developing for Herbert's career. I prefer him over Burrow, too.

[Topcat]

You know, if the Chargers and Bengals swapped QBs, I don't think either team would be getting a "better talent".

But last year, Burrow lived up to the lofty expectations placed on him, at least until he got injured, while Herbert far exceeded the expectations he experienced while performing at or above the level Burrow did.

Herb prospered after being unexpectedly being thrown in, and while he made some mistakes, he almost NEVER repeated them.

And he accomplished what he did behind a horrible O-line.

So I like the narrative that's developing for Herbert's career. I prefer him over Burrow, too.

No doubting Burrow's talent, and I agree, they're pretty close. But imagine us trading the farm for Burrow, as some on this forum suggested. Kind of reminds me of some people this past draft suggesting trading the farm for Sewell. No doubting Sewell's talent, but Slater may well turn out to be real close in talent to him. It will be interesting to see how all of the above progress in the future...