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  • jamrock
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    #13
    Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
    If you’re a bubble player, a rotational guy, or spot starter, you’d better know your value to the team.
    Costing your teammates paychecks and owner’s revenue will not be tolerated.


    NFL threatens forfeits for teams with COVID-19 outbreak among unvaccinated players

    Mike Jones
    USA TODAY

    Like I said in the other thread, it’s selfish at this point to jeopardize the team and your teammates by refusing to vax.



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      #14
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      According to Popper yesterday the Chargers are up to about 70% since the 50% report 6 weeks ago.
      Good progress. They need to get to 90%

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        Originally posted by equivocation View Post
        According to Popper yesterday the Chargers are up to about 70% since the 50% report 6 weeks ago.
        Excellent news.
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          #16
          Originally posted by Fleet View Post
          Doesn't make sense. The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting COVID, nor spreading it, nor will it prevent an outbreak. We're reaching level 12 of uninformed stupidity. The whole point of the vaccine is to keep you out of the hospital. That's it.

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            #17
            Originally posted by captaind View Post

            Doesn't make sense. The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting COVID, nor spreading it, nor will it prevent an outbreak. We're reaching level 12 of uninformed stupidity. The whole point of the vaccine is to keep you out of the hospital. That's it.
            Getting vaccinated absolutely helps in the prevention of contracting COVID-19 and it’s variants. It also significantly reduces your chances of hospitalization and virtually eliminates death as a result of having COVID.

            Estimating the total number of coronavirus breakthrough infections is difficult. Through the end of April, the CDC reported slightly more than 10,000 cases among 101 million fully vaccinated adults, which is about 1 case per 10,000 vaccinated people.3 days ago
            A stark case in point: During June, every person who died of COVID-19 in Maryland was unvaccinated, according to a spokesperson for the governor's office. There were 130 people who died of COVID-19 in Maryland in June, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.New COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations were also predominantly among unvaccinated people, the state said, at 95% and 93% respectively.

            Other states have reported similar findings while urging people to get vaccinated as the more transmissible delta variant is driving up COVID-19 cases.
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              #18
              Originally posted by captaind View Post

              Doesn't make sense. The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting COVID, nor spreading it, nor will it prevent an outbreak. We're reaching level 12 of uninformed stupidity. The whole point of the vaccine is to keep you out of the hospital. That's it.
              Oh boy. Even if it only kept people out of the hospital and death that would be enough. But it definitely reduces greatly the chances of getting Covid as well. I do agree that we are reaching peak stupidity

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                #19
                Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                Getting vaccinated absolutely helps in the prevention of contracting COVID-19 and it’s variants. It also significantly reduces your chances of hospitalization and virtually eliminates death as a result of having COVID.





                Read again what I said. It keeps you out of the hospital. That's it. It doesn't prevent you from getting it.

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                  Vaccinated people make up 75% of recent COVID-19 cases in Singapore, but few fall ill | Reuters

                  Vaccinated individuals accounted for three-quarters of Singapore's COVID-19 infections in the last four weeks, but they were not falling seriously ill, government data showed, as a rapid ramp-up in inoculations leaves fewer people unvaccinated.

                  While the data shows that vaccines are highly effective in preventing severe cases, it also underscores the risk that even those inoculated could be contagious, so that inoculation alone may not suffice to halt transmission.

                  Of Singapore's 1,096 locally transmitted infections in the last 28 days, 484, or about 44%, were in fully vaccinated people, while 30% were partially vaccinated and just over 25% were unvaccinated, Thursday's data showed.
                  This is what the vaccine is supposed to do. But the NFL's application is completely illogical. Any team, vaccinated or not, can have an outbreak.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by captaind View Post
                    Vaccinated people make up 75% of recent COVID-19 cases in Singapore, but few fall ill | Reuters



                    This is what the vaccine is supposed to do. But the NFL's application is completely illogical. Any team, vaccinated or not, can have an outbreak.
                    only 20% of new cases in LA County are people who have been vaccinated. But I’m not sure what your point is since the evidence overwhelmingly shows (99%) that vaccinated people aren’t getting hospitalized or dying. In other words, an outbreak among vaccinated people doesn’t result in a public health crisis.

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                      Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                      only 20% of new cases in LA County are people who have been vaccinated. But I’m not sure what your point is since the evidence overwhelmingly shows (99%) that vaccinated people aren’t getting hospitalized or dying. In other words, an outbreak among vaccinated people doesn’t result in a public health crisis.
                      My point is within the context of this NFL rule that teams will be forced to forfeit games based on whether or not they vaccinate. It doesn't matter if they're vaccinated or not, they can still get COVID and they can still spread it regardless. It shows you how misinformed people are about the entire subject.

                      COVID would not go away even if every person on this planet were vaccinated.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by captaind View Post

                        My point is within the context of this NFL rule that teams will be forced to forfeit games based on whether or not they vaccinate. It doesn't matter if they're vaccinated or not, they can still get COVID and they can still spread it regardless. It shows you how misinformed people are about the entire subject.

                        COVID would not go away even if every person on this planet were vaccinated.
                        It seems that you keep missing the point. Covid would be far less likely to spread if everyone was vaccinated and more importantly people who get it would be asymptomatic or if symptomatic wouldn’t require hospitalization. That’s the whole point. Doesnt that make it worth getting vaccinated?

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                          It seems that you keep missing the point. Covid would be far less likely to spread if everyone was vaccinated and more importantly people who get it would be asymptomatic or if symptomatic wouldn’t require hospitalization. That’s the whole point. Doesnt that make it worth getting vaccinated?
                          The point of the whole thread was this:

                          The NFL just informed clubs that if a game cannot be rescheduled during the 18-week season in 2021 due to a COVID outbreak among unvaccinated players, the team with the outbreak will FORFEIT and be credited with a loss for playoff seeding, per sources.
                          An outbreak can occur regardless of whether players are vaccinated or not. This is completely illogical. I don't know what the point of this whole "blame the unvaccinated" movement is when anyone can spread it.

                          If you're at risk, get the vaccine. I'm not even at risk and I got it months ago. But it was my choice. This is just getting stupid.

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