So if we trade down, say into the 25 to 30 range.....what would we expect besides the swap of first's? A third seems right as a second seems too rich. Is it? Hopefully someone wants to jump the Saints for a QB like Corral?
POLL: Who Should We Pick @ #17?
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Originally posted by Bolt Dude View PostDraftniks!!! How we feeling about #17? Now that JC freaking Jackson and Khalil freaking Mack are on the squad. Are we feeling DT or RT? Or another edge, to give us a 3 headed beast, hehehe.
I think CB is out. Sorry Nutty.
Now, RT is the obvious choice. Super glad they didn't invest the #17 pick in a NT/DT.
1st: RT
3rd: Safety/CB/Edge/LB depth?
4th: Safety/CB/Edge/LB depth?
5th: Safety/CB/Edge/LB depth?
6th: Safety/CB/Edge/LB depth?
6th: RB/TE depth?
7th: RB/TE depth?
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Originally posted by La Costa Boy View PostSo if we trade down, say into the 25 to 30 range.....what would we expect besides the swap of first's? A third seems right as a second seems too rich. Is it? Hopefully someone wants to jump the Saints for a QB like Corral?
#32 = 590
#66 = 260
#97 = 112
Total = 962
Chargers:
#17 = 950
#195 = 12
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Yep...Pip made the jump...kind of...after all these years...
Penning played on the same college OL as and was better than Spencer Brown. Brown is a solid starting RT for BUF and achieved that in year 1. Penning will be at least a solid starter in year one and he may end up a little better than that. Penning would be a huge upgrade over Norton on day one. Pipkins cannot beat out Norton.
The learning curve for Penning as a RT starter is likely to be average to good in year 1; good in year two; and possible Pro Bowl RT in year three. The low point of Penning's learning curve is above the high point of the curve for Pipkins.
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Originally posted by La Costa Boy View PostSo if we trade down, say into the 25 to 30 range.....what would we expect besides the swap of first's? A third seems right as a second seems too rich. Is it? Hopefully someone wants to jump the Saints for a QB like Corral?
Seattle might decide that there is a non-QB at #9 they absolutely must have. Then a QB they like (Malik Willis?) is still available at #17 (950 pts).
They might trade #40 (500) and #41 (490) to move back into the 1st for Malik.
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Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post
Topcat, there is no comparison between a player like Penning and a player like Pipkins. Penning is a very athletic and strong first round talent. Pipkins came into the league as a soft project player with much more limited athletic ability that was a huge reach when he was selected in the third round.
Penning played on the same college OL as and was better than Spencer Brown. Brown is a solid starting RT for BUF and achieved that in year 1. Penning will be at least a solid starter in year one and he may end up a little better than that. Penning would be a huge upgrade over Norton on day one. Pipkins cannot beat out Norton.
The learning curve for Penning as a RT starter is likely to be average to good in year 1; good in year two; and possible Pro Bowl RT in year three. The low point of Penning's learning curve is above the high point of the curve for Pipkins.
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Originally posted by FarAwayBoltFan View Post
There are also trade back into the 1st options for example...
Seattle might decide that there is a non-QB at #9 they absolutely must have. Then a QB they like (Malik Willis?) is still available at #17 (950 pts).
They might trade #40 (500) and #41 (490) to move back into the 1st for Malik.
and know that Critty would give'm next year's No. 1 for their two second rounders.... (that would give him enough ammo to go up and get the Sauce)5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Well, Crusher, I DID say that Pip "kind of" made the jump...he went from a total project in year 1 to a somewhat serviceable backup by the end of last season...and I'm not quite ready yet to anoint Pip as our starting RT, like some people in this forum apparently are...
Penning is not as polished as Slater was, so I do not expect a Pro Bowl in year one, but I do expect Penning to be a solid starter on day one and a large upgrade over the likes of an UDFA like Norton and a big third round reach like Pipkins. And the long term potential is that he will end up as good as good as Slater. Basically, if we draft Penning, our RT issue is resolved for the rest of Herbert's first contract.
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